• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    Biden is well past his prime, had a shitty performance last night, hate his record on Israel, but I’m still voting for him because he’s not Trump and I’d prefer that our representative democracy continued. Moving to a braindead, functionally illiterate dictatorship just seems like an all-around worse move in every respect. Not sure about his chances, but whatever, there’s not really any other alternative at this point.

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      Not American, and hate Trump and Biden equally. I say vote Trump. He’s the slim shady of US politics - he’s only giving you things you say with your friends inside of your living room, the only difference is he’s got the balls to say it in front of you all and don’t have to sugar coat it at all.

      So instead of avoiding your discomfort of acknowledging what the US is, just vote trump and let it be clear to everyone

      Or not. It doesn’t matter what you do, Trump is winning anyway. You guys are going to have cheetos man for president whether you, or we, like it or not.

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        Yea the things my family who likes him says in the living room is mostly ignorant compilations of how they think the government works and dumb white trash racist garbage so no thanks.

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            I mean with sweep generalizations like that you’d fit right in with the MAGA crowd, no wonder you like trump lol.

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        he’s only giving you things you say with your friends inside of your living room, the only difference is he’s got the balls to say it in front of you all and don’t have to sugar coat it at all.

        Things like what, exactly? We must be hanging out in different living rooms.

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        Yah fun things to talk about like “hey, isn’t it interesting how you have less medical rights now.” Jfc

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      Can you tell me what makes you believe that Trump is or will be a dictator? Don’t use Jan 6th.

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        I can waste my time going through that exercise, but it’s pretty clear to any thinking person that that’s what the plan is on the Republican side, just look at the words, rhetoric and actions they’ve been taking for the past 10+ years. Otherwise, you’re maliciously asking me to go through the mental effort of writing up an attack on Trump that you’ve already decided to ignore and/or counter with some feeble bad faith argument. You’re a waste of my time and everybody else’s.

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          Ah okay… so you’re full of chit as per usual. Let me guess, Maddow is your favorite all-time commentator?

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            Why don’t YOU go ahead and write me up a 2-page essay on why Trump isn’t planning a dictatorship, cite your sources. That’s essentially what you’re asking me to do and it’s guaranteed you’ll give a short, flippant remark that doesn’t actually address any of the issues brought up, basically wasting my time. It’ll be a bunch of whataboutism, gaslighting, misdirection, and BS, that’s the standard MO.

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                Constitution only matters if it is being enforced. And 2017-2020 showed us that very few Republicans were willing to do that.

                Currently SCOTUS is debating whether president has absolute immunity (in other words, if he can commit any crime, including murdering his political opponents) something that is absolutely against our constitution, yet they have to debate it.

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        If inciting an attack on the capital and destabilizing the worlds oldest democracy doesn’t immediately discount Trump from your voting decisions then you’re braindead lol. Imagine trying to argue past that, despite 9 years of existing with Trump as a political figure.

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            You right lmaooo. That’s funny, I guess I should say oldest democracy with real world power.

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          Have you been paying attention to the details of Jan 6th? So far it looks like it was a setup, completely out of Trump’s control.

          Before you respond, have you been paying attention to the details of Jan 6th?

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            The details like Trump saying he loved the insurrectionists? Yeah, I paid attention to that.

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            Lmao. Cite them sources or me saying Trump blows maggoty cum all over Melania is literally as true as that statement.

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            Yeah, sure. And what prompted trump to show up in DC in January 6th, which before 2021 was day that didn’t have any special meaning in US history?

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        Don’t use the time he instigated a coupe attempt as a reason?

        Can you tell me why putting my hand on an electric burner that is red hot is a bad idea? Don’t use anyone’s past experiences being burned by hot objects.

        Sure you could technically go into a complex explanation using physics as to why it’s a bad idea, but why?

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          My defense is the U.S. Constitution. I don’t see it as even a possibility that anyone would attempt to become a dictator in the U.S.

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            The constitution is decided by the Supreme Court in the end. The American system of government makes the selection of justices political appointees for life. That is why you have Republican and Democrat justices. Political. So the constitution gets bent into any political shape according to power possession.

            Don’t for a second believe that the United States can’t sleepwalk into a dictatorship. People are already describing Jan 6 as an ordinary tourist visit. What will it take for the public to see the danger with their own eyes.

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            I highly recommend “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century” by historian Timothy Snyder If you can’t get a book or audio book the author also reads it on YouTube.

          • It can absolutely happen. Nothing stopping a republic from becoming a dictatorship. If it happened once in history, it will happen again. This thing in particular has happened multiple times. The US may show more resilience but in the end, it is a human system run by humans, and it will be broken by humans.

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        So - ignoring the time he sent a mob to try and overthrow the US government, how about we use the fact that he literally said he’d be a dictator?

        Or maybe the fact that his legal defense against trying to overthrow the government was that the President is immune from all crimes. His lawyers even literally said he could have his political opponents murdered, and so long as the surviving politicians don’t impeach and convict him he can’t be held liable for it.

        They’re arguing a legal framework under which he can murder the opposition, and then kill anyone that tries to remove him from office.

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        1. He has said he plans on being a dictator for day one.
        2. He regularly talks like a dictator jailing and killing his political opponents.
        3. Even if he were to win a second term, he is to egotistical to let it go a second time.
        4. Hes putins little bitch who looks up to him, so of course he would want to be as great as the greatestness of putin.
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          He has said he plans on being a dictator for day one.

          Source?

          He regularly talks like a dictator jailing and killing his political opponents.

          This is literally Biden and Co… This includes Obama and Hilary. Obviously you have a source for this too, right? Surely you have literal videos of his speeches/rallies where he speaks like a dictator announcing he’s going to jail and or kill his political opponents.

          Personally, when Trump wins, I think he should definitely pull a Bukele and have all politicians on all sides investigated for corruption, including the DOJ, the FBI, and the CIA.

          Hes putins little bitch who looks up to him, so of course he would want to be as great as the greatestness of putin.

          Russia-gate is and was all BS… If you’re referring to that. Trump’s commentary of Putin was really no different than Kim Jong Un of North Korea. Also, the cold war is over. Hating Russia today just because politicians do, is mindless drone territory.

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            mindless drone territory

            The only part of this you seem qualified to weigh in on.

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          Ohh… I thought you meant from day one.

          Yeah, I wish I was God for 1 day. Lots of cleaning up to do.

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        He told Hannity he would be dictator for one day. No dictator goes one day. One is too many to begin with.

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        Lol at supposedly asking an open question, while simultaneously stipulating that the open rebellion cannot be mentioned. That’s not how open questions work.