Gnome devs to Gnome users: get gnomed you gnomes
I got gnomed
As someone who much prefers gnome for my desktop this shit is so frustrating. I’m kinda just waiting and watching to see if they ruin another thing I like about it :(
Its fucking exhausting
Reading the bug report about all that ( https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/issues/288 ), it’s crazy to see how the gnome dev (Red Hat employee) replies to the issue. He completely ignores the issue in the beginning, then that he doesn’t care to follow the spec because it’s “old”, and yet, he still advertises to the OS as an fdo theme, so OSes ship with it. He’s hurting non-gnome apps, and he simply doesn’t seem to care about it. To me, this shows a person who simply doesn’t care about ecosystem.
Gnome is the Mac of the Linux desktop world.
Nothing new here, Gnone losted the plot with Gnome 3.
I have defended Red Hat a fair bit over the past year. Their level of contribution to the community is a big reason why.
It is clear though that their prominence comes with a downside in the paternal and authoritative way that their employees present themselves. Design choices and priorities are made with an emphasis on what works for and what is required for Red Hat and the software they are going to ship. The impact on the wider community is not always considered and too often actively dismissed.
Even some of the Linux centrism perceived in Open Source may really be more about Red Hat. For example, GNOME insists on Systemd. Both projects are dominated by Red Hat. There have been problems with their stewardship of other projects.
To me, this is a much bigger problem than all the license hand-waving we saw before.
I was getting really pissed seeing that Pointieststick had to explain the same fucking thing OVER AND OVER again. I don’t know if the gnome dev in question is stupid or just trolling.
If it’s sabotage, it would be kind of caring.
More closed and non-customizable systems are much more stable. I guess that’s what GNOME devs are trying to achieve and I don’t really mind it. We have other options for those who need customization. The most used and mainstream one really should be focused on stability. Though I don’t think anyone tried breaking icons before. It’s a bit too much. The app devs will need to make multiple icons for different DEs which is a good thing but shouldn’t be forced like that
Don’t advertise the theme as standards compliant then.
If stability was their aim, they wouldn’t be breaking stuff all the time…
I would argue that gnome is pretty stable in recent years. Don’t remember when was the last time something crashed.
This might would probably be true for Extensions.
KDE has been unstable for me on Wayland in the past.
You’re talking about two different kinds of stability. They are talking about development stability. You are talking about runtime stability.
One thing is to not break applications that use your library because of changes you introduce to it. Specifically changes that go against the standard you’re supposed to be following.
Another thing altogether is to not go outside the memory limits of the application so it doesn’t get yeeted by the kernel.
Gnome to Gnome users: Why are they constantly shooting themselves in the foot?
Gnome to a Xfce (me) or KDE user: hey y’all come quick they’re doing something stupid again
Breaking changes is what drove me to switch to KDE.
I’ve had periods where I was switching back and forth, but your entire shell having breaking issues on every minor patch is unacceptable. If they’re also going to break other apps with that, i don’t know how i would recommend it
If Linux is to go mainstream I feel like KDE needs to be the default Desktop experience on distros. The Windows-like style is what the majority of people recognize and are familiar with and the KDE developers seems to care a lot about their userbase.
New users already has a lot to deal with and learn when it comes it Linux. They don’t need their desktop environment to work against them too.
I disagree with this, personally. There’s a lot more to initial usability/discoverability, than Windows-compatible visuals. If anything, when i’ve switched a couple of my family members off Windows, they asked me for something that doesn’t look like it, because they could never navigate through the desktop properly
GNOME is so fucking cringe lol. I open a terminal, Firefox, gedit, emacs, and KATE. If I maximize these windows and then want to close or minimize them all the controls are unaligned thanks to these insane GNOME losers. There’s no window list so switching windows is adding minutes per day of useless work to whatever you’re doing. It’s literally the worst UI in the world. I’d rather use Windows 3.1, at least that shit didn’t have CSDs.
Gnome devs being gnome devs.
Fork and stay at the old version until it’s fixed?
Again? Aren’t Mate and Cinnamon enough Gnome forks already?
