These US healthcare systems are effectively scams. Yes in theory they can save you money, however in theory there is no difference between theory and practice, while in practice there is.

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    1 year ago

    Haven’t had the time to watch the entire video yet, but is there an actual mention of HSA? The video seems to be specifically about FSA and its use-it-or-lose-it policy. I’m currently on an HSA as it seems to be the best option in the current system for someone who is still relatively healthy and doesn’t get sick or need to go to the doctor often. I’d be curious to know what the risks are.

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      1 year ago

      Unfortunately his talk is almost entirely about FSA. Here’s a word of caution about HSA from CNBC: 91% of people with health savings accounts make this mistake

      • Just 9% of health savings account owners invest a portion of their funds, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. The rest, 91%, hold cash.
      • Ideally, savers would treat HSAs like a retirement account, by investing for future health costs in old age.
      • However, HSA investing may not be available to everyone. Doing so would mean paying out of pocket for short-term health expenses to let money grow.

      The private financial company—which you don’t get to choose—gets its cut as well, in fees, some which are hidden.

      I’m currently on an HSA as it seems to be the best option in the current system for someone who is still relatively healthy and doesn’t get sick or need to go to the doctor often.

      It’s a gamble we shouldn’t have to be making. We’re healthy until we’re suddenly, unexpectedly not.

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        this is ridiculous. hsa funds are used by people of modest means in the year it is taken out. If any is saved its in simple interest or very conservative investments. if you lucky enough to not have health care costs for enough years, then you can start investing like its an ira which it actually is. In retirment it can be used for any purpose.

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    1 year ago

    They are a scam, but they are also yet another tax loophole for people that are rich enough to be unconcerned with the broken healthcare system. They are pushed by the investment banks that actually manage all that money and large corporations sign their employees up for these plans because they count as “providing healthcare,” so they aren’t penalized, also the various HR departments and other C-Suite execs get huge kickbacks and bonuses for cutting employee costs.

    They suck in more ways then just stealing people’s money.

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      1 year ago

      What’s funny is that, if you’re rich enough to take advantage of it, the advantages that it provides are kinda small potatoes, especially considering the BS paperwork they require.

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        1 year ago

        That is true. But if you are rich enough to take advantage of it, you aren’t necessarily handling your own finances personally. This doesn’t mean you are a billionaire, merely a <10millionaire or “middle-class” as the Democrats would say. The same people who were clamoring for pell grants for entrepreneurs who operate a business in a disadvantaged area for 3 years. Or the people who can afford to “run” a non-profit while they are attending Harvard or whatever.

        Basically if you don’t need it, it’s trivial to benefit from it.