Before it was X, I use to hang out on Twitter. It was (to the credit of some of the people there) a significant help for educating me further left. However, I did sometimes see things that in retrospect, I’m not sure I’d align with even now, as an intentional marxist-leninist. The way people sometimes approached dialogue on gender was one of them, but I pretty much never commented on it on Twitter, that I can recall. Partly because it seemed to be a very charged thing with people who had high follower counts ready to weaponize retweets, ratio’ing, and so on, to undermine any attempt at discussion into a heated dunking session. And partly because I was trying to shut my mouth more and learn and not be the “um ackshully” guy.
By this point, I feel a fair bit more confident in the views that I have. I was still nervous of posting what I did with how upvoted this thread is and it probably coming across as challenging it in some way, but I figured that with how this place is historically and the interest in serious analysis, maybe deeper discussion can be safely and calmly had. It was a genuine challenge putting into words what my concern is, I’m still not sure I explained it very well, and it comes from far more than just this thread (but as I alluded to - my main experience with this kind of thing was on Twitter, not here).
So you can see it as “bring this up everytime” if you want, but that’s far from the truth of what I’m doing here. I tried really hard to bring up what I wanted to say while making it abundantly clear how important it is to challenge and dismantle patriarchy. And when I said what I did about husbands and wives, it came from a real place of pain of seeing up close how a woman can, despite encouragement from her grown kids to the contrary, cling to an unhealthy relationship dynamic rooted in patriarchal teaching, even when she chronically has clear issues with it.
I agree lmao. I don’t understand why people need to bring this up everytime like god forbid a woman makes a joke and I say this as a cisman
Before it was X, I use to hang out on Twitter. It was (to the credit of some of the people there) a significant help for educating me further left. However, I did sometimes see things that in retrospect, I’m not sure I’d align with even now, as an intentional marxist-leninist. The way people sometimes approached dialogue on gender was one of them, but I pretty much never commented on it on Twitter, that I can recall. Partly because it seemed to be a very charged thing with people who had high follower counts ready to weaponize retweets, ratio’ing, and so on, to undermine any attempt at discussion into a heated dunking session. And partly because I was trying to shut my mouth more and learn and not be the “um ackshully” guy.
By this point, I feel a fair bit more confident in the views that I have. I was still nervous of posting what I did with how upvoted this thread is and it probably coming across as challenging it in some way, but I figured that with how this place is historically and the interest in serious analysis, maybe deeper discussion can be safely and calmly had. It was a genuine challenge putting into words what my concern is, I’m still not sure I explained it very well, and it comes from far more than just this thread (but as I alluded to - my main experience with this kind of thing was on Twitter, not here).
So you can see it as “bring this up everytime” if you want, but that’s far from the truth of what I’m doing here. I tried really hard to bring up what I wanted to say while making it abundantly clear how important it is to challenge and dismantle patriarchy. And when I said what I did about husbands and wives, it came from a real place of pain of seeing up close how a woman can, despite encouragement from her grown kids to the contrary, cling to an unhealthy relationship dynamic rooted in patriarchal teaching, even when she chronically has clear issues with it.