Designing Firefox for the future | The Mozilla Blog
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  • tradclasstruggle@lemmygrad.ml
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    16 hours ago

    On mobile they did a really good job with this version, lots of very useful new options. Still haven’t gotten around to trying it on a computer.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I just wish the mobile app had an ability to display more than two bookmarks at a time without the need to scroll and click through menus to get to them. Desktop app has a bookmarks toolbar, the mobile equivalent sucks.

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    eh it looks cool and all, but why do we need a redesign every 6 months?

    shouldn’t they be using those man-hours to like, solve the fingerprinting problem for example?

    • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      https://arkenfox.github.io/thorin/items/02browserfingerprinting.html

      you can’t “solve” fingerprinting. spoofing makes you more unique. and you cannot spoof everything. looking normal helps more than trying to hide. the only real solution to it would be creating a standard to all browsers, which is what tor does, and it’s why it works. same settings, same window size, same engine, etc. if you want fingerprinting resistance, use tor!

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        the only real solution to it would be creating a standard to all browsers, which is what tor does

        there you go. do that to firefox.

        • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          this would imply not being able to resize your window for example… you cant do that to a general purpose software. you need to useba tool that fits your needs. it would be the equivalent of complaining about Debian not being an amnesiac distro. Tails exists for this…

          • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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            1 day ago

            this would imply not being able to resize your window for example

            Or it would let you resize and report the same size as everyone else.

              • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                1 day ago

                What do you mean? If all Firefox users report the same size, than you are one of many. That’s the point. It makes you stand out less. Off course this works only if you are not the only one that sticks out and its the default.

                • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
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                  18 hours ago

                  this is one thing, do you understand how limiting it would make the browser? its not just window size, this is one example. and afaik if you spoof your window size you can break rendering of pages. again, you’re comprimising everyday usage. im not saying there isn’t a way at all, maybe there is, but it’s not some trivial thing, ive followed arkenfox for quite a few years and they’ve been saying the same. the amount of time it takes to make a redesign is nothing to making an unfingerprintable browser. if that’s even a thing. and remember that you cant spoof everything.

          • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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            2 days ago

            since you mention it, firefox has a feature where it launches with a generic predetermined window size so you blend in. even then screen resolution can only get them so far.

            i’m not calling for firefox to be tor, just that everyday software must be more private too.

            • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
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              2 days ago

              yes, tor uses that feature to make all users look the same, if you resize a bit your tor window that’s it. you can be identified. for fingerprinting to work every browser would need to look the same. this means no extensions, no difference in window size, same settings, etc. do you think that’s actually feasible for an everyday browser? really?

              • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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                2 days ago

                i know. but each point you touched can be improved upon. my point is that browsers are too transparent to third parties, and that’s one of the priorities.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    I hate everything about “modern design” … Rounded corners, gradients, blur and transparency effects, fading in/out … fuck that! I want my browser to look and feel like the rest of my UI.

    • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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      1 day ago

      This is basically what I was thinking. I customized Firefox to be less rounded with sharp edges, single color and much denser. I don’t know why every application is treated like a new abstract art (off course I’m exaggerating here).

      • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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        18 hours ago

        That’s mine (resized to not have a huge screenshot file)

        Custom fully custom labwc theme, customized GTK theme, modified Firefox (userChrome.css)

        Thunar for reference.

        Anything more and I’d feel super distracted and annoyed.

        • Kynsey@lemmy.ml
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          13 hours ago

          I go even further on the minimal UI personally lol. Black box over the date/time is an edit and the theme I have is animated so it has rain partiles falling down. But I like as much of my screen as possible to be the content and want the browser out of the way. I’m hoping they don’t entirely break my current setup. It’s technically Floorp but that’s Firefox based so we’ll see.

          Edit: Figured I should clarify. When I say minimal I mean like how MUCH of the UI I have. Like tabs and search bar in the same row. I don’t mean like minimalism. I’m clearly more maximalist in my themeing than you lol.

          • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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            8 hours ago

            There is clearly a lot going on in your UI! It’s always great to see how people customize their environment and funny how corporations like Mozilla think they know better.

            I don’t mean like minimalism. I’m clearly more maximalist in my themeing than you lol.

            Oh, my theming is maximalist. Especially labwc: It’s 100% custom from ground up for theme and configuration. Not one single bit was taken over from the default configuration. It’s just the result that is minimalist 😆

            Same with Firefox: I override almost all of the tabs styling with custom configuration.

            • Kynsey@lemmy.ml
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              6 hours ago

              Yeah I meant like the end result since yours is the clean white look and mine is very busy lol

        • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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          15 hours ago

          I was hoping for screenshot sharing, lol. Yours look similar familiar, I wouldn’t be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.

          Mine evolves from time to time. Sometimes I learn something new from new screenshots and incorporate that. One such recent “implementation” is the Bookmarks Toolbar. I created a top level directory named “Favorites” and put all quick access bookmarks in there and moved the toolbar to the same level of tabs, to save me an entire extra line of bar. My current Firefox looks like this:

          I’m on KDE, the titlebar is disabled for all windows (I’m an auto tiler person). BTW I’m not sure how to get rid off the rounded corners of the window, but that is not Firefox specific.

          • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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            8 hours ago

            Yours look similar familiar, I wouldn’t be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.

            I did and I will continue doing so! 😇

    • Otter@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      I like some of these things, but I’d be ok with them being optional toggles. I remember seeing a Firefox fork with extensive customization options for the UI

      Personally

      • rounded corners make it easier to see what is contained in what. It gives more information than just having everything meet at corners
      • gradients and blurs match the rest of my UI 😄