Idk if it’s really helpful to the convo but As someone who quit smoking less than a year ago after 10+ years I wanna say raising the price won’t help people not smoke. The amount of money I threw at my smokes was just someothing I always budgeted in and it just kinda fucks over poor people who are gonna smoke no matter what. I don’t think this full ban is really gonna do much for already existing smokers. Of course if the cost of selling cigarettes was more than the profit we could get somewhere but at the end of the day every industry would benefit from ditching profit based economics. Thats why I’m a leftist I guess
I never said higher prices were a good solution. Merely a better (i.e. less terrible) one. Most people will budget. A few who “can” quit might.
The only way to truly stop people by raising prices is to price them out completely, making a pack $500 or the like, and that’s an idea not too far from hitting a head against the wall - except the head isn’t even yours!
As always, the best fix is support. Small-group therapy for sharing experiences, writing a diary of smoke info (what/when) and related events (feelings, triggers, etc) with a quick rundown of important info such as a taper plan, withdrawal and the symptoms. Suggesting alternatives that migjt help ease the symptopms.
Perhaps a quick cost analysis for the urge-based spenders might be the little push they need to get cigarettes out of their life.
I almost smoked over the weekend, found out we lost my grandmother on Saturday morning , still haven’t picked one back up. Starting a new job this weekend too, after the strike on the first, Almost gave myself the excuse that I’m stressing so might as well.
I can put it this way, my grandmother lived a beautiful long life, created wonderful paintings and ceramic vases, career artist, never smoked once in her life and lived to be 95. My grandfather smoked like a chimney, passed about 15 years ago, I think he was about 80. Makes a youngin’ think
Idk if it’s really helpful to the convo but As someone who quit smoking less than a year ago after 10+ years I wanna say raising the price won’t help people not smoke. The amount of money I threw at my smokes was just someothing I always budgeted in and it just kinda fucks over poor people who are gonna smoke no matter what. I don’t think this full ban is really gonna do much for already existing smokers. Of course if the cost of selling cigarettes was more than the profit we could get somewhere but at the end of the day every industry would benefit from ditching profit based economics. Thats why I’m a leftist I guess
You’re right.
I never said higher prices were a good solution. Merely a better (i.e. less terrible) one. Most people will budget. A few who “can” quit might.
The only way to truly stop people by raising prices is to price them out completely, making a pack $500 or the like, and that’s an idea not too far from hitting a head against the wall - except the head isn’t even yours!
As always, the best fix is support. Small-group therapy for sharing experiences, writing a diary of smoke info (what/when) and related events (feelings, triggers, etc) with a quick rundown of important info such as a taper plan, withdrawal and the symptoms. Suggesting alternatives that migjt help ease the symptopms.
Perhaps a quick cost analysis for the urge-based spenders might be the little push they need to get cigarettes out of their life.
I almost smoked over the weekend, found out we lost my grandmother on Saturday morning , still haven’t picked one back up. Starting a new job this weekend too, after the strike on the first, Almost gave myself the excuse that I’m stressing so might as well.
I can put it this way, my grandmother lived a beautiful long life, created wonderful paintings and ceramic vases, career artist, never smoked once in her life and lived to be 95. My grandfather smoked like a chimney, passed about 15 years ago, I think he was about 80. Makes a youngin’ think