Europe has pro-Nazi organizations, but they are clandestine. In the same way as China opens the door for capitalist talking points by openly censoring them, Europe gives munition to nazis by refusing to let them expose themselves. Nazism is a stupid ideology that would not stand its ground were its mask to fall.
There are documentaries protesting against neonazis and talking about their proliferation and rise… but I can’t check and link them because they are not allowed, “not available in your country”, particularly in Germany.
I’m convinced that if the reality of nazism was more public, antifascist sentiment would rise.
Can you link to me government officials openly declaring themselves nazis? …I want the actual direct declaration.
I think the reason they got the government is PRECISELY because they keep the mask. Trump has already said multiple times he’s not a nazi, do you think he would win approval if he came out and said he is?
Elon Musk did a seig heil on stage to a roaring crowd for Trump’s inauguration. He did it twice. His punishment? They appointed him the head of a government task force and then he wrecked a bunch of agencies in the name of “”“efficiency”“”
Where’s the declaration? Elon has publicly said he’s not a nazi too, even as a response to that. So mask is still on.
You don’t have to look far to find people saying that they don’t believe this was meant as nazi support, so it clearly didn’t really expose him on the eyes of the public.
If their mask were off they would not need to dog whistle.
A seig heil is an open declaration. That was a clear, mask-off moment and denying it is a joke. You’re moving the goal posts.
And sure, they’ll deny it, but that’s because they’re lying liars who love to lie. They don’t lie because they think anyone will believe them, they lie because they think it’s funny. They love to make people mad by lying to their faces. It’s like the Sartre quote:
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play."
The denial is literally a joke. The joke is serious too, of course, because that’s how Nazis always are. They’re always joking and serious at the same time, and they can freely switch between being serious and joking around as it pleases them. They take the mask off and put it back on for fun.
But they aren’t being censored. Wasn’t that your original point? That censorship makes them stronger? But, they aren’t censored.
Again, they should be exposed.
Europe has pro-Nazi organizations, but they are clandestine. In the same way as China opens the door for capitalist talking points by openly censoring them, Europe gives munition to nazis by refusing to let them expose themselves. Nazism is a stupid ideology that would not stand its ground were its mask to fall.
There are documentaries protesting against neonazis and talking about their proliferation and rise… but I can’t check and link them because they are not allowed, “not available in your country”, particularly in Germany.
I’m convinced that if the reality of nazism was more public, antifascist sentiment would rise.
Explain the US, where there is no censorship of pro-Nazi opinions and yet mask-off pro-Nazi ideology made it into the government.
Your thesis, that censorship just makes ideology stronger, isn’t borne out by how Nazis are coming to power in the real world.
Mask-off??
Can you link to me government officials openly declaring themselves nazis? …I want the actual direct declaration.
I think the reason they got the government is PRECISELY because they keep the mask. Trump has already said multiple times he’s not a nazi, do you think he would win approval if he came out and said he is?
You are making the point for me.
Elon Musk did a seig heil on stage to a roaring crowd for Trump’s inauguration. He did it twice. His punishment? They appointed him the head of a government task force and then he wrecked a bunch of agencies in the name of “”“efficiency”“”
Did you forget? It’s only been a year.
Where’s the declaration? Elon has publicly said he’s not a nazi too, even as a response to that. So mask is still on.
You don’t have to look far to find people saying that they don’t believe this was meant as nazi support, so it clearly didn’t really expose him on the eyes of the public.
If their mask were off they would not need to dog whistle.
A seig heil is an open declaration. That was a clear, mask-off moment and denying it is a joke. You’re moving the goal posts.
And sure, they’ll deny it, but that’s because they’re lying liars who love to lie. They don’t lie because they think anyone will believe them, they lie because they think it’s funny. They love to make people mad by lying to their faces. It’s like the Sartre quote:
The denial is literally a joke. The joke is serious too, of course, because that’s how Nazis always are. They’re always joking and serious at the same time, and they can freely switch between being serious and joking around as it pleases them. They take the mask off and put it back on for fun.
But they aren’t being censored. Wasn’t that your original point? That censorship makes them stronger? But, they aren’t censored.
Ah… so you admit they deny being nazis?
I agree, they love to keep the mask on.
My point was that this is on their benefit.
As an antifascist, I want them to openly admit they are nazis so that their lies can be exposed.
Their lies not being exposed protects them. Hiding is a form of protection, truth and transparency is a great antifa tool.
So your answer is yes, you condemn Germany for censoring Nazis?