• falseWhite@programming.dev
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    he believes cats are semi-feral and that they think we are cats too

    Ok, so it’s just something someone believes, it’s not very scientific… They don’t really provide much evidence other than belief

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      Cats don’t see you as cat, but also not as someone superior, they can see you as friend, but you have to gain it, if not, you are only an tin opener and food supply. They are anarchists by nature.

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        They are more like little dictators.

        What the article implies is that they do not understand that we are different species. The relationship between cats and humans is a whole other area. But I don’t believe cats are stupid or have somehow evolved to believe humans are the same species as them.

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          Certainly they are far from beeing stupid, but they simply don’t have an concept of leaders or hirarchy. You can even train them to do tricks, but it is more difficult as with dogs, not because they are more stupid, but because they must see a reason and have the desire to do it. It’s in their nature, in nature it’s up to their own strategy and decisions whether they’re going to eat or not, there’s no herd or a leader that tells them what to do. This is the difference with dogs, nothing to do with intellectual capacity, perfectly equivalent, females are usually somewhat smarter than males, but just as in dogs, there are individual differences, as it also happens with us humans.

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    I don’t buy this because cats will react totally differently to cats than people. Regardless of posture. If my cat sees someone walking down the street she doesn’t get angry. If my cat sees a cat outside she’s already on the defense.

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      I think people are leaving out purring and kneading as behavior. Both are kitten behaviors. Suggesting to humans they click into “kitten mode”

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      But they are!

      They can’t even turn doorknobs, no matter how many months they try. But you give them a lever knob, that’s a totally different story…

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    A dog is an herd animal and need an lider to follow, a cat (except lions) are lone hunters, they don’t even have the concept of an lider, the can have anarchistic groups and friendships when they have with it advantages to obtain food.

    The dog thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, he must be a god

    The cat thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, I must be a god

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      Dogs don’t need a leader - the whole alpha male wolf thing has long been disproven, by the original author none the less. Dogs are highly social and live in groups, yes, but there’s no boss dog. Very few animals have a concept of a leader. In fact I’d argue that none do and it’s a totally human idea.

      I like your cat/dog thinking idea though. Cats very much think ‘me me me’!

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        This isn’t quite true, wolf packs do have leaders: the pack’s mom and dad.

        Most wolf packs are a breeding pair and their children, and the children will break off and form new packs over time. Every time you hear pack you should legitimately just translate it to “family”

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          I’d argue that parents are different to a ‘leader’ as we perceive them, or as I read was suggested in the comment. Children will stick with their parents, up to the point at which they’re ready to start their own family, like you say, but is that leadership in the same sense?

          But yes, I agree, pack = family is accurate.

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    I’m fine with that. Better that being a tall ape descendant slash servant.

    Cats are great. 😊