Reminder that the 100 million number comes from the editor’s introduction to the Black Book of Communism, who “was ‘hunting’ for the highest possible number of victims”, and whose introduction was disavowed by three of the other authors.

Three of the book’s main contributors (Karel Bartosek, Jean-Louis Margolin, and Nicolas Werth) publicly disassociated themselves from Courtois’ statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Margolin and Werth felt that Courtois was “obsessed” with arriving at a total of 100 million killed, which resulted in “sloppy and biased scholarship”, faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries, and rejected the comparison between Communism and Nazism. [citations in the Wikipedia article]

Also, a side note: The term they’re looking for is “corporatocracy” or “corporate capitalism”, or sometimes you’ll hear “crony capitalism” (as if these are distortions of capitalism and not inherent trends!). Corporatism is a whole other thing, a class-collaborationist ideology/system based on collective bargaining of groups. It has its own issues, but it’s a separate concept.

But the word “corporatism” is so misused that it’s hardly worth calling wrong anymore…

Gotta love how basic logic is far beyond the comprehension of ancaps.

Tell me, who is going to enforce property rights in an anarchist setting? Whoever has the biggest guns?
So, you’re telling me that a person or group will use force and threaten violence against those that don’t play along? How is that anarchic?

say what you want but i think it’s pretty cool that they made a “victims of communism” museum. it’s a building where you walk through a main door to get in and learn about people who were victimized by at least ostensibly communist regimes. it’s great because the main door works both ways: if you’re already inside, you can walk through the same door and step into the “victims of capitalism” museum.

Honestly, I’d be tempted to grant the premise. Let’s work together to end corporations. See what happens. When every commercial entity is an employee-owned small business worth less than $5M, communism vs. socialism vs. capitalism becomes a very interesting discussion.

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…There’s this interesting minor character in a TV show called Pantheon. Spoilers, but basically the protagonists are fresh off opposing “Steve Jobs but extra fascist.” They meet these Chinese intelligence agents in VR going after this superintelligence holy grail like everyone is. They come off as patriotic and almost deliberately stereotypical.

Anyway, later, these intelligence agents end up temporarily stuck with “Indian Hyper-Capitalist Hitler” in VR (it’s complicated, okay?), and one of them sits down to play a board game:

https://pantheon-amc.fandom.com/wiki/Han_Ping

I’ll just transcribe what Han Ping, who it turns out, is an mind-uploaded old man, said:

‘’’ I was never one for board games myself… Too much to do, my work, my studies. But I came to see their value after I was sent to prison. Laughs a little. In captivity, one must keep one’s mind active, but not too active.

(Speaking of his intelligence friend nursing the wounded). The party never sent her to prison, so, she never had to learn that lesson.

One game. Indulge me?

…

(Indian Capitalist Hitler): You were a political prisoner? Hm? A democracy activist then? Challenged the Party’s authority?

(Han Ping, after laughing amusedly): This is what everyone outside of China thinks. The only reason to oppose the PRC with something as decadent as western democracy… I spoke out against the Party precisely because they have strayed from the path of democratic centralism. They have become capitalists, no better than the West.

(Hitler): Why, then, would you serve the Party by being uploaded?

(Ha Ping): I do not serve the Party. I serve China. Uploaded Intelligence has the potential to become this century’s greatest leap forward, a revolutionary innovation of which neither Marx nor Mao could have dreamed. All obstacles for the proletariat victory, the riddle of scarcity, dilemmas or distribution and disparity, these are all finally resolved when we remove the material imperative. The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter, and what remains, is justice… Your move.

‘’’

That stuck with me.

The whole show is largely about governments and their corrupted ideals falling apart when challenged with really disruptive tech, along with those of the characters it followed.

Here on Lemmy, when I poke around communities, I kind of hope to see that ‘purist’ and anti government sentiment. But when push comes to shove, it seems like folks always fall back to party lines instead, not necessarily the PRC’s but wherever they’re from.

So yeah, when I see this meme, I just see two people about to yell at each other over whatever atrocities the other is in denial over. There’s no growth of self awareness, just hostility. “The Don’t tread on me” ignorant jerk meme may be too true, but it could easily be extended a few panels to portray red shirt guy as a jerk too.

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