• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Then why the fuck do you people show up to protest??

    How does it make any sense to you that people will drive miles to some street and stand around while police kick your heads in. You cannot argue protesting publicly is effective yet engagement and capture online is not. What is really fucking crazy is how a lot of the left are convinced a public protest is Mecca while online engagement (which every one is putting money into as you said) is crap.

    Almost like the people who put money into the effective methods are convincing their opponent to do the ineffective thing while they convince them the effective methods that they’re all invested in is useless.

    They’re funding what you are doing for free right now. It’s insane how thick minded so many of you are. Every comment or content you all make costs them money to counter. It’s a numbers game. It costs you nothing. Take every protester willing to show up in the streets and teach them how to create media.

    The left is cooked. So much brain rot on the left. You’re all calling people who have beat you in every arena as low information. Yet they beat you all, everywhere. How’d that no Kings protest work out?

    Online is where opinions are shaped and formed. It’s a force multiplier. I’m so done with the left. Have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like watching people click their fingers in a park all over again.

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      7 hours ago

      What are you referring to? Who is you people? I’m sorry people do know if you knocked on doors, just because you’re not doing it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t get results.

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          6 hours ago

          Um to have an actual real connection to the person you’re talking to and not just talk to some faceless name and avatar on a website? To show people that you actually care about them and that a political project is important enough for you to get your ass off the couch for. To maybe connect with other like minded people so you can organise more?

          Holy shit I’m actually starting to realise what people meant when they said the .world people are crazy. How online are you that I have to explain that talking to people in real life is nicer than just communicating online. I order you to touch grass.

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            Haha touch grass yea so funny dude.

            You spend 4 hours and end up having a real conversation with 4 people who were already on board or lonely.

            We spent 5 minutes and these comments already had probably 50 people read it.

            Keep your moral virtuosity. Make sure as the left continue to lose that you hold it close and live in that bubble of yours. Somehow the left have no ability to adapt or change in a modern world and it shows everyday.

            The right are online. They’re not door knocking. They’re already in everyone’s living room. Every single person in your life I bet has told you some right wing point like asking if wearing masks are actually safe or that vaccinations might not work. That’s because the right have adapted and continue to capitalize on effective communication, capture and engagement. Something door knocking is not. They have shops with stickers, Facebook groups, they’re about to Buy tiktok.

            Wake up FFS.

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              The right have been a more or less hegemonic force since the 80s. There is a reason why I spend hours online. The reason why the right can do all this is because they get paid to. They get millions of funding thrown at them by oligarchs, that’s why they are so visible not because they’re some creative marketing geniuses. Like so many things in life it comes down to resources and who had access to them. Meanwhile the left has to rely on people like me who are going to sacrifice their free time and creativity for something they believe in.

              The left has all the things you mentioned as well, and is online as well. Currently one of the biggest podcasts on Patreon is hosted by two lefties. I also want to point out that for most of the lefts history being a leftist meant sacrifice of some sort. If you don’t want to do that fine but stop removed at me about how the left refuses to adapt. We are up against capital, if you haven’t figured that out and what it implies then idk what to do for you.

              That’s why going outside and doing things in real life is important fund raising for example is very important. You can also donate to lefty content creators that you like. Currently a bunch of them are getting cancelled or demonetised thanks to their support against genocide. The left has been in decline since the fall of the USSR so idk why you think this is some kind of new phenomena. The fact that they’re slowly making a comeback is actually pretty cool and gives me a small slither of hope sometimes. If you just want an easy ride then join one of the billionaire parties, the pay is better and you’ll have to work less.