Now Israel/USA will fabricate an event, to legitimate another attack… Just wait…
israel will regroup and attack again. trump and israel are doing this all the time now.
Iran is happy with permanent ceasefire. Israel had far greater initial demonic fantasies, and so we can say they lost. Trump’s glorious victory strike no one should question its success is essentially helpful intervention on behalf of Iran. Israel better off not receiving missiles, too.
Israel was running out of interceptors and wanted to quit. Israel cannot do a war of attrition. The tide was turning but Iran handed Israel the win. Massive L for Iran.
Iran was shocked by a massive opening blow in the middle of negotiations which allowed Israel to disable many launcher sites and take air superiority in those regions preventing Iran from accessing their full capacity.
Regardless of this, Israel still just couldn’t handle sustained pressure from Irans remaining weapons.
Israel started the war with the goal of regime change and destroying Irans nuclear capabilities, they did neither.
If the war starts back, Iran will still have the capacity to overwhelm Israeli defense and Israel will have to rely on another surprise attack, which is much less likely now that Iran has seen their strategy for doing such.
It’s in no way an L for Iran, much less a massive one.
It’s an L for Iran in respect to killed military commanders and civilian toll, but an ever greater L to Israel because they not only failed the goal of regime change (if anything, made it more difficult by bombing Iranian civilians) but also experienced a breakdown in their defense capabilities and got bombarded for 12 days, breaking the facade that Israel is unable to experience repercussions for their violent aggressions
At no point should Iran ever not have expected Israeli strikes. This is what Israel did to Hezbollah as well. They took out many commanders and received almost no retailiation. Then Israel did it agains afterwards. And Israel will do so again with Iran because there is clearly no punishent.
Israel took air superiority but was not able to take out Iranian missile launchers. Israel fired many interceptors at each missile and appeared to be running out very soon. Israel was publicly signalling it wanted to tap out. Iran could have even taken a massive win by demanding a ceasefire in Gaza. But instead they chickened out and took the loss. Leaving Iran with their bombed nuclear facilities (not the mountains), and massacared army top. And Israel barely lost anything.
There’s a difference between expecting some form of attack at any moment and knowing the strategy and extent of opening attack to expect (internal Mossad agents activation to sabotage systems prior to a massive bombardment). Iran can now go into overdrive purging Mossad cells and account for the targets and strength of strike to expect next time, they aren’t Hezbollah, so they couldn’t assume they would get the same form of opening attack.
Israel didn’t destroy, but they did disable the ability to use missile launchers in certain regions, the reason the missile barrages were limited to around 20 at a time towards the middle-end was because Iran had to resort to Guerilla tactics, using smaller launch forces to strike then moving them back to safety before Israel could take them out. The capacity wasn’t destroyed, but it couldn’t be used to its full extent, because using it would open it up to getting destroyed.
How can you say there was clearly no punishment for Israel when we were seeing bombs dropped on Tel-Aviv, Trading ports, and military targets, and now the people realizing they can be hit back and they didn’t even get what they wanted. Israel wants us/their citizens to think there was no punishment and they achieved all their goals, but the truth is blatant.
Israel wasn’t running perfect defense and avoiding Iranian hits, then just when their defense was weak a ceasefire happened. The opposite if anything, Israel kept taking hits and only when the US showed willingness to be involved directly militarily to save them did Iran agree to ceasefire.
Obviously Iran didn’t end the Israeli regime, but they also withstood the Israeli aggression aimed at ending their regime.
I’m seeing a lot of defeatism about what should be a celebratory event for those who oppose the Israeli regime. We could build off of this moment.
Iran is delusional.
Uh no, Iran has quite the powerful military force FYI
Then why is their name Iran and not Istopandfight
Sun Tzu-ish deception
I see videos in Tiktok of Tel Aviv and Haifa going boom boom that say otherwise.
The fact that any of them are still alive is only because Israel was constrained from using its nuclear weapons.
Bibi got exactly what he wanted. He killed Israel’s top 10nuclear scientists in the first 10 minutes of the attack. There has been no huge international outcry as a result of the attack so he now knows that he can do it again without consequences. He dragged fascist boot licker Donald Trump into the conflict so now he knows that the US will run to his aid whenever he needs it.
Trump got exactly what he wanted. He was horribly embarrassed by the fact that everyone was laughing at his dollar store dictator parade and got to flex his strongman muscles. Never mind the fact that the attack was a near total failure, his fascist bootlicking base believe that his approval rating is at 99.9% and that he completely wiped out Iran’s nuclear capabilities.
Other than that, though, Iran definitely won.
Does that change the fact that Tel Aviv and Haifa got hammered?
Israel could not stop Iran from hitting Israeli cities. Israel’s air defence was shown to be ineffective.
The title was, “Iran says powerful military response forced Israel to halt aggression unilaterally”. That isn’t what happened. It’s delusional.
I would venture to guess that the unilateral phrasing is referring to the fact that Iran’s response did force Israel to turn to the US to intervene and broker a pause in hostility… thus halting Israel’s aggression.
They did this without the offered aid from Russia or China. Unlike Israel who started the aggression and required the US to step in on its behalf
Unlike Israel who started the aggression
Hasn’t Iran been funding attacks by proxies on Israel for years? Weren’t they supposed to be part of a coordinated attack against Israel but Hamas jumped the gun?
You’re here to troll. Have a nice day.
Bibi (and the west) wanted regime change — that did not happen. The bulk of Iranians rallied around the current govt. He wanted to eradicate Iran’s ability to enrich — that did not happen.
There is huge international outcry, just not in the west. One could argue that the consequences of this outcry isnt substantially retaliatory, but there is no doubt major outcry from the global majority and has only strengthened defense agreements among the major powers supporting Iran.
It was already known that the US would aid in Israel’s defense, especially considering that this attack was jointly coordinated. So while the US intervened, it was only intended to deescalate, evident by the potempkin attack on Iran’s nuclear sites. Bibi’s ultimate goal is to have the US involved in a long-term, official military capacity, which it did not achieve.
Trump got the opposite of what he wanted. He completely alienated his base by forsaking his promise to not get militarily involved in West Asian affairs and drag the US into more war. A significant number of his supporters view him as weak in this regard, not a so-called strongman. And what does he have to materially show for his efforts — nada.
This is a victory for Iran because the mystique of Israel has been completely broken by Iranian missiles. Everyone in the region thought Israel was unassailable – supported by the US with the weapons and forces of the US – they assumed it was invulnerable. And now it’s quite clearly vulnerable and was so at the point of breaking apart, because there are a lot of pressures inside of Israel right now. The myth of Israeli technical, material superiority and exceptionalism has been punctured. This is major.
What impact this will have within the region however, we will see.
So Israel killed 9 of the top 10 nuclear scientists in Iran in the first series of strikes then cleaned up the 10th shortly after and you don’t think they could have taken out a large number of the members of the Iranian regime? Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
Clearly you’re here to argue conjectures rather than have informed discussion. Have a nice day
We were having a civil discussion. I don’t agree with you so you label me a troll but that doesn’t make it so.
