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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    No one said it was fine that Harris supported Israel.

    What we all said was there are only two candidates who could win the election, and they both support the genocide. We condemned the one-sided criticism, not the facts.

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      3 days ago

      I saw a ton of people that tried to say Kamala would be better without any actual evidence of that.

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        Do you think she would’ve upgraded the 5-ton bombs to 10-ton bombs, and provided bulldozers to turn the West Bank into a billionaire resort too?

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          According to recent reports stating that Biden never applied any pressure to israel, and considering she never made herself different than him on israel, I have no doubt if they asked she would have.

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      Actually a huge number of people said it was fine that Harris supported Israel, as well as a huge number who engaged in heavy denialism about Harris’ support of genocide.

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      3 days ago

      If you never said that harris shouldn’t be supporting genocide, you never encountered it.

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      4 days ago

      Since we are in a post election situation, by constantly scape goating voters, you are doing one sided criticism.

      Trump helps genocide and he is a bad guy, Biden and Harris help genocide but the voters should have accepted it essentially.

      If we refuse to hold the dems accountable for their actions which directly led to Trump winning, they will plot the same course for the next election.

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        If we refuse to hold the dems accountable for their actions which directly led to Trump winning, they will plot the same course for the next election.

        Yes, that’s the idea. No centrist wants to stop the genocide. It’s not like it’s something centrists do want to stop, like raising the minimum wage or universal healthcare or cannabis legalization or anything they run on.

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        Am I? More people voted against Trump than for him. If the third-party voters accepted that they can’t change the rigged system by voting third-party, Harris would’ve won.

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          The were too small a demographic to listen to, but they were so influential that they’re responsible for trump.

          Sounds like they’re kingmakers and maybe they should have been treated accordingly. But that will require belatedly abandoning support for genocide, so centrists never will.

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          If the dems had catered to voters instead of kneeling in front of a foreign apartheid state and its genocide, Harris would have won.

          Politicians can choose what they represent and the platform they put forward. I don’t want to have to vote for genocide so democracy can live again, I want the dems to drop their pro-genocide stance. Blaming voters is the opposite of asking for change.

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                Are you for real?

                Trump repealed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after him in occupied Golan Heights. He also said Israel needs to “finish the job” and stop recording their atrocities because they’re “losing the PR war.”

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                  What a shock that liberals care more about what Trump says than what Biden did. The Democrats fully supported Isreal “finishing the job,” but you only care about it when Trump says it.

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                    A lot of good your moral superiority is doing for the Palestinians now, huh? Upgrading the 5-ton bombs to 10-tonners, with plans to pave over the West Bank for a billionaire resort.

                    You really think that would’ve happened under Harris? Get real.

                    Also, I don’t know what liberals you’re referring to. I’m a progressive.

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      What we all said was there are only two candidates who could win the election

      Yeah, Joe Biden and Donald Trump, I remember.

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        A Democrat or a Republican. Welcome to the United States. Select one of the two or one will be selected for you.