• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    14 days ago

    Russia is very much ending it, hence all the panic over Ukrainian army collapse that’s unfolding in western media right now.

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        14 days ago

        Because it’s a war of attrition and it took a long time for the AFU to reach the point of collapse. Russia didn’t do big arrow offensives because those would’ve been very costly in terms of equipment and manpower as Ukraine found out during its fabled offensive. Instead, Russia chose to use its massive artillery advantage to grind out the AFU instead, and now we’re seeing the results of that approach. Here’s an analysis from an actual expert if you’re interested

        https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

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          13 days ago

          We gotta wonder whose benefit it is to keep on prolonging while the official story is different

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            13 days ago

            Given that Russia and Ukraine almost came to an agreement two months into the war and the west sabotaged it, I think there’s little question about that.

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              13 days ago

              It’s definitely fishy with sabotaging all around from different directions with all of the negotiation attemps

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                12 days ago

                Sabotaging did not come from different directions, it was always coming from 38.8977° N, 77.0365° W, though might be through other places.

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        12 days ago

        Pretending Ukraine was winning was necessary to send them more weapons. They would never get funding for a war of attrition which ends in their loss.

        Now the obvious conclusion is unfolding and our media slowly changes tone as if they are surprised Ukraine cannot win.

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            12 days ago

            No, it was always “Ukraine is winning but might lose if we don’t help” because obviously if they just said “Ukraine is winning” then the help would be not needed.

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              12 days ago

              It was “Ukraine is on the verge of losing each second but a few weapons can keep their head above water until a peace is negotiated”

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                12 days ago

                No it wasn’t, nobody official in Ukraine or west even talked about negotiating peace, the terms was always basically unconditional surrender of Russia and conquest of Crimea.

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                    12 days ago

                    I mean they didn’t officially called Russia to surrender, but after the first talks were sabotaged by Johnson, official stance of Ukraine, supported by their western helpers was (and still is) that Russia should entirely left borders of Ukraine including Donbas and also give them Crimea. The only situation in which this could happen is Russia’s surrender (and historically such maximum one sided demands also only happened after surrendering of one side).