• UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    She was on one of the teams that did if I remember correctly. I believe they split up into three teams and developed algorithms independently from one another. What surprised everyone was when they came back, all three teams had more or less the same image. It’s been a while so I may be wrong on some details. But it wasn’t just her is my point.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      For the number of times women were straight up erased from their scientific achievements I think we can keep choosing them to represent the team for a bit.

      • GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        This. Men got so angry when this story dropped and took personal offense to the fact a woman did something important and valuable. The amount of times women have had their work stolen and taken credit for by some bro far outweighs the recognition.

        • Maalus@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          Or maybe attribute everyone equally - regardless of gender / sex, since that doesn’t matter to what they do? You don’t fix injustice with more injustice by skipping the contributions of other teams and only singleing her out.

          • angrystego@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            Science is teamwork, but the contribution of different team members is usually not all the same. There’s no way for us to know who did most of the important work. We have to put trust in the team that they chose their representative fairly.

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              9 days ago

              You replied to the person explaining this and ignored all of it - she was one out of 3 teams, each using different methods to arrive at the same conclusion. They simply made a photo of her when she got a result and was excited. They didn’t “choose a representative”. She said “everyone deserves the credit”. So why are you pushing this, instead of saying “all the teams deserve credit and this is a cool photo”?

              • angrystego@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                I do think the other teams deserve credit as well, just like her team does. I thought it was discussed whether it was right for her to represent her team.

                Also, the fact that there were 3 teams doesn’t mean we cannot celebrate the happiness of one of their leaders.

      • toasteecup@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        I’m fine with this.

        As long as the team gets recognition in the more formal documents then let the media have whoever they’d like.

        It’s like doing set up for a show. Let the headliner be the focus but acknowledging the people who made it happen is really nice.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          Definitely, I’ve not heard of any shenanigans with their paper. So they still get credit. It’s just not a media headline.

    • angrystego@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      It’s almost never just one person, science is teamwork, but that doesn’t mean she’s not an excellent scientist and project leader worthy of the buzz surrounding her research. Let’s let her have the spotlight she deserves.

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    This is her youtube channel. If you haven’t read the paper on this algorithm, I think you can get a good intuitive understanding by watching the two videos she has on there from (what looks like) her thesis, and I think it becomes clear why she was selected to lead this project.

    Specifically, these two videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfGvPinTJUs

    and

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhQ7WkbHms

    So, consider that these two videos are basically the “one-dimensional” solution, or one pin-hole camera example. In the approach that her and her team to image the black hole, they used many, many radio antennas’, all acting in concert in a not-too different version of what she did her for the work on her YT channel.

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      too bad - that you leached on your senior collaborators who did ALL and every intellectual part of the project - all for your credit; you are what I call an instagram scientist - too bad for science that such people who do any third-rate cheating act for publicity - like Katie Bouman exists @JosephDT

      Seems like somebody is unhappy with her being chosen

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    10 days ago

    Dude in the back is looking at the result with the same intensity as a teenager seeing boobs for the first time.

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    9 days ago

    Photographers worldwide have accepted the challenge. They will bring assistants to pull and tape the hands off the face. They will make her look at an eagle or birdie far off in the distance as one does. Don’t worry, this lady will be ready for her one page in highschool books.