• CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
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      I could see the appeal of consoles back in the day, when they were weaker specs but much cheaper and the games just worked right out of the box. But nowadays it seems like they’re just as expensive, still not as good for specs and the games are just as bug-riddled as PC games half the time. And Sony has been releasing all their big hits on PC anyway so yeah really no reason for me to get a PS5 that I can see.

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      Because my pc uses 4-5 times the power to run the same ps4-era game. (Especially nice when it’s hot in summer)

      So I play it on my ps5, which offers me quick resume as well.

      I love pc gaming, been building pc’s for over a decade at this point, but I do also see the advantages my ps5 has over my pc.

      Could I build a more efficient and quiet pc, attach it to my tv and use that? Probably, and it’d be quite good with steamOS on it, but it’d be finicky to get sleep/resume working on it, and it’d probably cost me more.

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      And then there are people like me who buy all the consoles just to have them and barely use them all and mainly game on the PC.

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        Same, if only to keep fulfilling a childhood commitment to myself of owning all consoles after seeing some friends of mine having a Sega AND a Nintendo.

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      Couch gaming.

      I’m a technical person and I’ve tried a lot of different methods to do couch gaming with a PC. From having some sort of lap tray to various wireless mice and keyboard solutions. I’ve currently landed on having my gaming desktop just stream with Steam Link to my living room. As long as I’m selective about which games I want to play, I can usually get a good experience. But I still have at least 60% of my steam library that isn’t a good experience doing that.

      Having a dedicated piece of hardware with a custom OS that is designed around a controller is a huge difference maker. Plus you add in how ridiculously expensive it is to get either a USB external optical drive or internal SATA drive to watch DVDs and Blu-Rays. Heck, even just watching Netflix or YouTube in the living room is easier on PS5 than a media PC for the average user.

      There’s a reason Valve tried to make the Steam Machine.

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      Exclusives, simplicity, ease of use. I had a gaming PC, but switched to the PS5 only because I realized I’ve been using my PC like a PS5. I only play like fifa and gta now since most new games don’t even excite me anymore.

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    “Console sales are down. Circana analyst Mat Piscatella marked a 26% decline in spending on current-generation consoles this April compared to last April.”

    We’re 4 years into the generation, sales declines aren’t uncommon, but this gen has had unique challenges:

    1. Covid fucked it all up. Supply chain issues screwed availability, software engineering ganked game development.

    2. Too much emphasis on “Cross Gen”. Why would someone scramble to get a hard to find PS5 or Xbox Series when the same game is out on PS4/Xbox One X?

    Long generations are kind of the new thing, starting with Xbox 360/PS3. Previously they were around 5 years and people are looking for the next machines now.

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      I think we’re too far out to blame supply chain issues. PS5 is lagging behind PS4 at the same point in its life by about 20M consoles. #2 is both a symptom and a cause. Developers across the entire industry have bloated their development timelines. That means fewer games and less reacting to consumer tends. When do you think Concord started development, for instance? And do you think it still would have been made if it started after Overwatch 2 came out?

      Plus, consumers seem to be gravitating toward the less restrictive open standard. If you’re in Sony land, you need to replace your old controllers, even though they still work; you have to pay for online play; backwards compatibility is a bit of a dice roll, and if you want features as similar as higher resolution textures and better frame rates, they’re going to sell you a remaster rather than just letting you turn up the settings. In ruling over their walled garden ecosystem and trying to extract more money from it, they’ve given players more and more reason to play on PC.

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      Pretty sure the shortest time between Playstation consoles was 6 years (PS1 > PS2 & PS2 > PS3.) Then 7 years for both PS4 and PS5.

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        Playstation consoles are weird because Sony just can’t let go of old hardware (unless it’s the PSP).

        The PS1 was in production from 1994/1995 (Japan/US) to 2006(!) So it technically overlapped both the PS2 and PS3(!)

        PS2 ran from 2000 to 2013.

        PS3 2006 to 2017.

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    I’ve never been into this pc vs console cringe fest of an argument. I’ve always been a pc gamer, but guess what, some exclusives only come to consoles. If I want to play that exclusive enough and I have expendable cash, I’ll buy it. I still prefer to play on pc over any of the consoles, but a ps5 is a solid system.

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      I haven’t had a gaming-capable PC for about a decade and I’m very happy with my PS5 (and the PS4 before it). Sony bringing exclusives to PC don’t feel like the end times as it’s just a way for them to make more money.

      I’m genuinely glad that PC players will get to experience some of the great games that have been on the PS5 in the last few years.

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        It’s literally brave of you to come to this community and this thread and say that you love your console. And then to express positivity for PC users! You are exactly what we need more of in gaming.

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    Some things to say back to this:

    Most people now have the console they prefer, and it’s lasting them. They don’t necessarily need new consoles. This is true EVEN if that console is a PS4, Xbox One, or Switch. They don’t get everything, but a surprising number of major releases still come to all those destinations.

    It’s still nicely convenient to have consoles for less setup and configuration. Some people manage really complex problems for their work and home projects already - a desktop computer may be beyond their tolerance.

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    Consoles have just been proprietary PCs since the Xbox 360. It’s a wonder they’ve lasted this long.

    Still crossing my fingers and waiting for Steam Machines 😔

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      If you have Steam on your pc, you have a steam machine. Plug it into your tv if you want a bigger screen experience

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        If you have Steam on your pc, you have a steam machine

        You obviously don’t understand what those words mean.

        I have a Steam Machine. But many many more would have them if Valve sold them directly.

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    Can count on one hand the number of times the xbox was even powered on. The ps4 gets more time but my pc is my main platform.

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    Consoles are great if you want the same thing you can get on your computer but with worse graphics, shittier framerate, and a terrible device for input.

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      Hey come on now that’s not fair, at least the games are way more expensive and you have a fraction of the selection to choose from