• Ballistic_86@lemmy.world
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    I appreciate the enthusiasm Linux fanboys have about this. But ain’t nobody but the most tech savvy would even consider it.

    Linux is not consumer friendly, it typically involves putting in a shit load of effort to get working with your hardware, the ones that don’t still need a ton of work to make “Windows-like” and compatibility is always going to be an issue.

    Yes, there have been a ton of strides toward this dream situation. But without financial incentive, making things user-friendly isn’t going to happen. In fact, much of the Linux community prides themselves on having a “difficult” OS.

    Once Linux can, by default, have an easy to use interface, can natively run Android apps and windows applications, and can work with a huge range of hardware, it will never take off. Linux might get a few points of market share due to some business applications finding Linux a better option than updating HW and windows build, but those companies are going to struggle and will be even more dependent on their IT staff for the simplest of things.

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      the ones that don’t still need a ton of work to make “Windows-like”

      Perhaps that’s where you’re going wrong?

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      Idk the market share has at least quadruped from a measly 1% to 4% on the desktop/laptop. If you add ChromeOS, which is also a flavor of Linux (with limitations and Google apps), I believe it’s like 6-7% market share. It’s basically near the 10% of MacOS in the 2010s. I would say we have moved along well.

      Steam Deck is a great financial incentive with 5M+ users.

      And Linux can run most Windows apps and work with pretty much all hardware. Everyone but apple codes hardware support for linux. The only time there are hardware issues is if you’re on an old kernel (version) and you want to buy the latest hardware at sale and that’s a minority of people. Like everything but the desktop (and half of mobile) runs on Linux. Idk where the hardware point came from. Idk why you invent stuff when there are downsides to Linux already, which is the confusing information on what to choose and the terminal. That and some windows apps don’t work but they are the minority.

      Most people genuinely only need a web browser.

      As for android apps, they can run on Linux using Waydroid. Idk why this point is here, since even Windows won’t have Android apps after next year.

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    I spent too much time with corpo brain rot to give linux a chance on desktop and realize it’s how I’d always imagined proper computing would be. It changed my outlook on the world when I finally did and it’s liberating (much libre. Very wow). Glad to see more and more people catching on to the possibility of a better future.

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    there are 400 bajilion how tos on how to install Linux. If you aren’t going to do it then you arent going to do it, enjoy your corporate mandated spyware. I think it was Ben Frankin who said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little new user ease of use, deserve neither Liberty nor ease of use” or something like that

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      I’ve always had some interest in learning more about switching to Linux from Windows and the news lately has made me even more so; however, I have to use Adobe apps every day for work and school, and from what I know, there’s no great compatibility solution for them in Linux, and I don’t have hardware strong enough that I feel confident that they would perform well in Wine/a VM. Not sure what a good solution for my use case would be

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    While I agree with this video. As someone who did migrate from Windows to Linux, I feel the biggest issue which wasn’t address here was the planning for migrating to Linux.

    Migrating to Linux means loosing access to Windows native applications like Adobe and kernel level anti cheat online games. What I found helped the most was transitioning to cross platform application and learning their ins and outs in Windows, or discovering ways to validate which applications work well in Proton and Wine.

    With games ProtonDB is your best bet to see if there are issues. Or finding ways to solve issues.

    With Professional software… you’re not going to be as lucky, so transitioning to an alternative which works for you might be the best solution.

    The best way to check if Linux will work for you is to run Linux in a VM or on an external SSD on your actual hardware. The best way to check if something works for you is to try it yourself.

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        Was more focused on the online games with kernel level anti cheat. But yeah, it’s surprising how many online games work. Excluding native games like CS2/CS GO and TF2, I was able to play non-steam online games online like EA’s Battlefront 2, OG Battlefront 1, with wine-ge.

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    I think there are two major hurdles keeping Linux adoption back (besides the obvious installation bit). The first is that our backwards compatibility is terrible. It is easier to get old versions of Windows software to run in Wine than it is to get some old Linux software to run natively.

    If something like Photoshop did finally release a Linux version, even if they only did one release to make 2% of people happy, it likely wouldn’t be able to run natively after 5 years.

    The second is a good graphical toolkit. Yes, GTK and Qt exist, but neither are as simple as WinForms or SwiftUI/Aqua.

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      I’ve got plenty of old software here under Linux that still runs fine to this day across a number of PC’s and even a Raspberry Pi that I use as a backup desktop. I honestly can’t see backwards compatibility being any more of an issue than it is under Windows - There’s a number of accounting packages released under Windows 7 that won’t run under Windows 10, the latest version of most popular browsers won’t run under Windows 7. Likewise, the latest version of MS Office 365 won’t run under Windows 8.

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    He touches on my major issue with all these companies, data mining without compensating the people that created that data. I have to pay for the operating system, get served ads, AND you get to make extra money off my information too? This kind of shenanigans would be tolerable with a free OS, or maybe one that compensated you like brave browser. The blatant fleecing of the consumer here is sickening. I’m glad data mining your screenshots is the last straw for people.

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      I’m not ok with data mining under literally any circumstances. There are some things which just shouldn’t be done.

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      Too bad he didn’t touch the real issue with Linux for most people: lack of their industry favorite proprietary software.

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        If Linux suddenly started gaining traction on a bigger scale, Microsoft would make a user-facing proprietary distro and those bastards would still flock to it.

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          Most likely yeah :D After all even the other community got burned by CentOS and decided to move to Ubuntu in mass instead of picking a true open-source distro…

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              It is, but it’s also made by the same company that from time to time likes to add spyware into things… or fork open-source projects and change licenses just because they felt like it. Using Ubuntu on a professional environment has the same risks that using CentOS had, we never know when someone at Canonical will change the license and fuck everyone over.

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      I’ve been screaming about this since I found out Re:CAPTCHA was using us to train AI. We should definitely be compensated.