With its market share hitting a new low, can Firefox rise from the ashes or is this the end?

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  • Firefox market share 2.2%
  • Firefox users not happy with current state
  • 510 out of 593 mil revenue is from Google
  • CEO pay increased though market share declining
  • SuperSpaceFan@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Wow. This depressing for me to see because I have a hard time believing Firefox market share is less than 3%. It’s likely denial on my part. That said, it will not stop me from continuing to have it installed as the default browser on my PC, work laptop and mobile devices.

  • TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    This is just zdnet being zdnet Firefox remains the best browser for me and many others. The percentage of users in highly educated groups is much higher and there is a reason for this.

  • atro_city@fedia.io
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    11 months ago

    Firefox lovers will never admit it. I just use it because it’s the only real, opensource alternative, but I sure am not happy with it nor Mozilla.

    • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, totally the same. I’m only using it because that’s the only option, I’ll never use a chromium based browser, because that engine directly contradicts my my values. But the CEOs pay very much bothers me too, she does not deserve it at all, that money should be spent on useful work on the browser.
      I have been thinking it for long that it’s not a good browser, but the one that is the minimally bad. Of course I don’t tell this to people when I try to get them to switch, because for them it does not send the message I actually wanted.

      • atro_city@fedia.io
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        11 months ago

        I’ve been trying not to go to Chromium, but honestly, Mozilla is giving me less and less reason to. The only thing holding me back is Chromium’s terrible customisability. They don’t have containers and their sidebar is really new, so TreeStyleTabs won’t work yet. Also it doesn’t have last recently used tab switching and it’s not possible to remove the horizontal tab bar to only have a sidebar with TreeStyleTabs 😑

        • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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          11 months ago

          Oh, there’s more than that. A lot more. Just one example: ublock and such firewalls weren’t effective for long, because on browser startup it does not hold back network requests while the filter lists of addons haven’t loaded yet. But as you probably know, in recent years google has been working hard to reduce filtering capabilities of addons to the ground.

          To me there’s still a lot of reasons to keep Firefox, but actually instead these are just reasons to never install chrome, and never support it for friends (because it can’t be supported, because it does not even try to serve the user’s interest, because it is not a useragent, as it is technically called, but a corporate agent)

  • qprimed@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    11 months ago

    bit of a hit piece, citing lots of old data. my n=1 study indicates a 100% satisfaction rate with firefox and I have personally turned on at least 30 former chrome users to Firefox within the last 2 months. so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • GretaAintNoFlowerChild@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 months ago

    PRESENTED BY GOOGLE CHROME

    😅

    Edit; I’m happy with Firefox, and have been using it exclusively for about 6 years now.

    Fuck Google. Do no harm, unless it generates profit.

    • Juno@beehaw.org
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      11 months ago

      Right? I’ve been on Firefox since forever because it’s a “no bullshit” browser that just does what I need. It’s not running like a thousand instances of itself in the background even after I close it the way Chrome does.

  • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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    11 months ago

    Sad to see such article written as if it was all firefox’s fault, instead of google and apple’s anticompetitive (and probably illegal) strategies playing a great role.

  • CadeJohnson@slrpnk.net
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    11 months ago

    The statistic of low Firefox use is based on accessing US government websites. Could it be that there is significantly LESS government site access by the population of users that prefer Firefox? As a corollary I recently read that game companies observed significantly HIGHER bug reporting from Linux users on Steam, not because there were more Linux-related bugs, but simply because that set of users were more likely to initiate bug reports. Of course Firefox is not Linux and Steam is not the world, but a statistic from a relatively narrow segment of the internet should not be assumed representative of the whole.

  • Political Custard@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    Not much to write about over the Christmas/New Year period so time to drag out a tired and tested article Firefox bashing. It’s a bit like Keir Starmer still banging on about Jeremy Corbyn. [On rereading this I noticed I wrote “tired and tested” not “tried and tested” but “tired” will remain as it’s quite fitting.] 🤣

  • ThinkingThings@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I’ve been a believer since Netscape 3 and am a happy user on my desktops, phone, and tablets. I struggle to imagine a world without extensions on mobile. Firefox is also my password manager of choice, offering way more usability than any of the other options with at least the same level of security (AES-256 and 10,000 rounds of PBKDF2). I hope to never have to consider a move and don’t foresee ZDNet’s predicted death. 2.2% still apparently equates to almost $600M of revenue. That’ll keep the train running for quite a while. Still, I wish Mozilla listened better. Getting rid of XUL extensions was a self-inflected gunshot wound and not getting the full extension list to mobile for 2 years was just asking people to leave.

  • 0xtero@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    Well that was a well paid hit piece. For the record, I am happy with Firefox and its functions, I’ve been using it since the start.

    I am rather worried about Mozilla’s new laser focus on AI and the Corp CEO compensation bonuses are just bullshit.

    I’m hoping we won’t be forced into a completely Google dominated web because I thinking at that point it’s time to abandon it and burn everything to the ground

  • ulkesh@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Garbage article from a garbage outlet. Firefox is doing just fine for anyone who is using it. It’s not going anywhere anytime soon and these articles are written just to get a rise out of people.

    Mozilla isn’t perfect, and has loads of room for improvement, but at least they’re trying to provide alternatives to the nonsense of MS and Google. I’d love a new browser that disrupts the stagnation we have these days, but if they’re only going to be built on top of existing things like Chromium, with its bullshit Manifest v3, then no thanks, I’ll stick with Firefox.