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I didn’t expected this kind of thing to show up today.
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I don’t want to use a vibecode slop that isnt tested by real humans.
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I just want a secure and privacy respecting email not ai slop.
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Good Bye Proton I am Not Happy With You
Any Suggestion ?
- I want drive and calender support
- Made by humans not slop machine.
- FOSS
- May Be a Linux Client Support
"The LLM is fast. You are slow, but you carry with you a lifetime of experience, judgment calls, and understanding. "
I hope their next great plan is to extend life expectancy, because without a new wave of experienced humans, this plan is shortsighted.
they gave some hints when their ceo started praising fascists.
Yeah. I know thats when I canceled business with them.
This is not about chasing trends — we are being left behind here, and it is an existential threat to the success of the mission itself.
It’s wild to see how everyone successfully clocked crypto as a scam but then immediately applied the same “NGMI” FOMO mindset to the next scam.
Don’t get me wrong. LLMs are useful for several important software engineering functions: prototyping, iterating on implementations, collecting supplementary data, lining up disjoint interfaces… but it makes a terrible foundation, and it can’t refactor beyond a 101 level.
The only reason the industry is able to pretend that synthetic text extrusion is a sustainable replacement for granular human discernment is because most of our economy is just about building a marketable scam and leaving someone else to hold the bag. If company decision-makers knew they might face any consequences at all for steering the ship into a tar pit, this mass psychosis would not be possible.
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Also, this…
LLMs are not here to help you write better code faster. Your job is to help the LLM write better code faster.
…is precisely Cory Doctorow’s point about reverse centaurs, and the difference between labor and capital when it comes to deploying new tools. I don’t think they even realize they’re putting the quiet part in bold.
I don’t even get what “left behind” even really means here? It’s not like they’re at the cutting edge of some winner takes all race, they’re building already established tech (email, cloud storage, etc.) based on a specific ideology (privacy), and they already have enough momentum and brand recognition to just continue riding the current privacy-tech wave. I just don’t get why they felt the need to rock the boat with drama like this. This whole saga just reads too much like VC backed “move fast and break things” mindset which would put a sizeable chunk of their core customer base off the product
Profit must always increase at an exponential rate or your company is a failure. Sustainability is death to these psychos.
“It should come as a surprise to no one at Proton, least of all in engineering, that software engineering has irrevocably changed this year if not before”
Yep, I’ve never had to fix so many bugs and resolve so many production outages in a single year as I’ve done this year. AI is great. Couldn’t be happier. /s
I switched over to Tuta. Not sure I can escape developers using AI, but I can escape a CEO with a giant ego.
Have a look at mailbox.org, it’s a German provider of email/drive/calendar/office/conferencing. They’ve been around for a few decades and they use Linux and FOSS.
https://mailbox.org/en/about-us/
May Be a Linux Client Support
You can use any email client you want because they use standard IMAP and SMTP, and their non-mail services are used in the browser.
I predicted this and argued with so many people about Proton being a shitty company. I am not even happy about this, just sad that so many people wasted their time and money.
Wow, Proton keeps disappointing… Time to leave for me as well! I’m looking at Posteo as I’m worried Tuta will turn into the next Proton. Not only that, I’m sick of being stuck with the apps made by the providers, I’ll use Thunderbird thank you!
I don’t understand why this is a surprise to people? Didn’t they openly support Trump? So the CEO is clearly lacking in the upstairs department. That was enough for me to never deal with them ever.
I don’t understand why this is a surprise to people?
You really are surprised that not everyone knows the same things and also interprets them exactly as you do?
I’m on a multi-year sub unfortunately… I guess I’ll still move out whatever I can and just set myself up to not use them
This exactly for me. At least it’ll give me time to find the best alternative once everyone settled into their perspective services
Yeah I’m also counting on that
Yes, the old faithful promises that this is not the end for you, but that you are moving on to something better.
Sounds very much like a eulogy for the deceased.
Tuta
Shitty human for years.
Tuta honestly is the way to go unless there are other options available. Plus if your into cloud services they just partnered up with Nextcloud so they are growing as a platform. Their calander on mobile and PC sucks though, not really the best.
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