Why are so many people ok with a world where you have no say in what your employer does, and they can do whatever they want to suit their bottom line?
Though I wonder how much of this is actually corpophilia and how much is people hiding behind it because they don’t want to say “I’m glad these people I disagree with got fired”.
Here are some threads to show what I’m talking about:
r/conservative (though this one feels like cheating)
etc…
There’s a weird implicit conservancy in tech circles around the dictatorial nature of corporate leadership.
It stems from this weird externalization of corporate decision making that just turns everything that happens at large companies into the machinations of the unknowable machine of capital.
“Of course they were fired, they protested in a way that disrupted the business, if the business is disrupted the machine must correct itself, and it did so by releasing the corporate anti-bodies of leadership to fire the disruptive element. Thus the machine is corrected. This is all logically sound, and thus impervious to moral inquisition.”
Hacker news is full of people LARPing as corporate crisis management officers, or counsels for the defense. Every post you get about “company caught grinding up babies to fuel forever-chemical cancer machine” will get a ton of posts by people arguing that actually it’s a net positive for the world and how could anyone be against such amazing innovation?
I agree with you. People are gleeful and smug about the firing. I’m proud of the people who stood up against a contract that will only bring death and destruction to the world and I am ashamed of those that smugly revel in their firing.
Yeah, I don’t understand a place in the world where I fit that allows that kind of shitty behavior. I have a direct line to the founder of the place I work at. He gives a shit and listens when I give voice to a problem.
Isn’t that called “capitalism gone bad”? The principles of capitalism and that story about competitiveness is good but in a global economy where monopolies distort the market, by reflection you’ll have bending of rules which thrives thanks to a political class that is driven not by ideals, but rather personal interests and ego. Those that have the poet will abuse it. I’m not surprised at all. What is worse is that peoples brains are becoming numb thanks to social media. We are not able to think for ourselves anymore.
Spend 10 mins on Blind, and you’ll see that once anonymous, people tend to be far more right-wing than you’d like to think.
I completely support their right to protest, having attended many myself, as does the constitution. However, they were on the clock and on private property. They should have organized a protest outside, during off hours, if they wanted to protect their jobs. Circulating a petition wouldn’t have been a bad idea either.
Edit: OP shared this interview in a thread further down. It’s a first-hand account from a former employee. The employee stated that they were warned several times about pending arrest and violation of workplace behavior. I respect their commitment to their cause, but it was with full understanding that they were arrested and subsequently terminated.
To be fair, if you read the interview with one of the workers, they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in. I don’t they risked their jobs without reason.
I’ve read two articles, but neither of them had that interview. Got a link?
Thanks. Interesting read. The employee stated that they were warned several times about pending arrest and violation of workplace behavior. I respect their commitment to their cause, but it was under full understanding that they were arrested and subsequently terminated.
they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in
So they were intentionally disruptive to their employer and you’re upset they were fired? You think people should be able to show up, clock in and then protest their employer on company time on company property and face no repercussions?
I’m upset about the people supporting google’s right to make money over any ethics. I’m upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does. I’m upset at people who think this is a good thing.
The specific repercussions they faced is another matter. But no, I don’t think they were fair. Quote
Yeah, this was retaliation, like completely indiscriminate—people who had just walked by just to say hello and maybe talk to us for a little bit. They were fired. People who aren’t affiliated with No Tech For Apartheid at all, who just showed up and were interested in what was going on. And then security asked to see their badge and they were among the 28 fired.
They had to reach out after the fact to tell us, hey, I was impacted by this.
I’m upset about the people supporting google’s right to make money over any ethics.
Well, don’t be, because it’s not happening.
I’m upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does.
Also not happening.
I’m upset at people who think this is a good thing.
Once again, not happening.
Blanket? Not at all. In this specific case I wish Google faced the repercussions rlinstead of the employees.
