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Looking for suggestions besides Kubuntu, KDE Neon, Debian, Arch Linux, or Kali.
Would be on a modest Dell Latitude with i5, 14" 1080p display with intel graphics, and maybe 16gb ram. I have previous experience with XFCE, Ratpoison, Openbox, KDE Plasma. Recently started trying out LXQT.
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I’ve been enjoying LMDE. Mint without Ubuntu.
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Any notable differences between Ubuntu and Debian base for you?
The big one is no Snaps. You can get them, but I prefer flatpaks which I use on LMDE.
NixOS and Guix System! I’m currently using Guix System + Nix (via home-manager, mostly) but you can also do it the other way around.
NixOS uses systemd, but Guix System does not. They are both awesome though. Absolutely my favourite distros. Incredibility flexible, and reproducibility and “declarativeness” are core concepts. The only negative is that they both have quite a steep learning curve, compared to other distros.
Cool, added Guix system to the list with Nix.
Someone else was saying to go for Flakes
If you’re new I suggest not using flakes. You can always switch to them when you learn how to maintain NixOS.
I’ve played with Nix twice over a week each time. I’m not afraid at all, but I suppose at this point I’ll decide which distro by dice roll.
Yeah, it’s been an ongoing debate whether the old Nix style or the newer Flakes are a better approach. I don’t really know that much about it, but thus far I definitely like using Flakes more
So Guix is the old stye?
No no, Nix has two ways of handling configurations, where Flakes are the new style, but still experimental. Guix just have one way of handling configurations.
Trying for fun or trying to settle?
I like NixOS but Void is cool too
Just got void submitted. Will add Nix. Window manager preference? Any nix stuff to try?
Niri is a joy! Tried it once and never looked back.
Nix is a wide ecosystem and you have tons of tools to use for your config to your hearts content, so this is a bit tough. Id say: Make your config a flake (its an experimental feature, but it’s a de-facto default), use home manager or GNU stow to organize your .config and home directory, and if you like Nix and plan to stay, look into the dendritic pattern for your config (not the best for someone just testing nix, but for long term it’s a total life-saver)
Best of luck to you!
As in declarative?
Yup it is. You configure your whole system by setting options in your config files, using a functional language. It’s hard at first but with time you naturally get used to it
Where I got stuck before was in the number of packages that were not actually supported within Nix. I found the documentation very frustrating, but the community very welcoming.
I have tried nix but so far all I have managed to do is misformat the config file and brick the laptop I put it on 4 or so times.
Any suggestions on actually using it
Fedora.
Its not new, its not special with some big changes or special kernels, it has sane settings.
It has releases every 6 months, and updates about as much as arch
This was the first thing recommended: Fedora with default Gnome. I’ve never even tried Yum, so would be interesting.
Nixos
Cool, I’ve tried Nix twice for a week at a time. Still have my configs. Struggling with lots of missing packages and the docs being frustrating, but love how it works once configured.
I want to set time aside to set it up but I’d rather go with a fresh drive
Exactly the sort of situation I am benefiting from, thanks to receiving a spare machine.
I’ve just switched to Pop_OS and so far I’m really impressed. Very fast, and Cosmic desktop has a totally different design and aesthetic to any other DE
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I recently went back to fedora workstation (gnome) after using Arch (Manjaro) with kde and hyprland for the last 3 years.
Got tired of things breaking with hyprland and Manjaro every other month. Had a few issues with AUR packages too (I know I’m supposed to carefully read release notes to figure out what breaks, but how many people actually do that?)
With fedora at least, I won’t have to worry about packages breaking and not working together. Gnome isn’t my favorite but I’m sticking to it for a while to give it a fair chance.
Yeah, definitely super interested as someone who has tried neither Fedora, nor Gnome (since version 2).
Here are options, which I’ll choose by dice roll. Laptop arrives eta today.
- Project Name Window Manager
- Devuan —
- Fedora default Gnome
- Gentoo Libreboot firmware
- Void Sway or Niri + noctalia-shell
- MXlinux Sway
- CachyOS Niri + Limine
- Bazzite
- NixOS Cinnamon + Guix + Flakes
- QubesOS Whonix
- Zorin Gnome
- LMDE
- OpenSuse Slowroll
- EndeavorOS Plasma
- Slackware
- Alma
- Aurora
Guix
Fedora.
I prefer the KDE spin over GNOME, but I hate GNOME.
Whatever DE you prefer, pick that one.
Curious about Gnome after avoiding it since version 3 dropped
Ubuntu server (headless)
Install pulse, x11, awesomewm.
Building the gui stack yourself on top of Ubuntu server gives you all of the debian/Ubuntu stability and issue searchability with none of the gnome/canonical cruft.
Have you tried this on base Debian? Works well!
Yes I have, admittedly it’s been about a decade but at the time I switched because getting hardware acceleration in chrome and Firefox was difficult on debian, trivial on Ubuntu. I like the stable, but newer packages that Ubuntu offers, plus the first-party support you get from a lot of projects. I wish debian was the standard dpkg assumption for first-party support but it unfortunately is not.
i noticed you havent tried fedora atomic cosmic. if youre just looking to run the gamut of DEs its probably the best cosmic distro right now. bonus points its fairly easy to rebase between each fedora atomic distro so you can DE hop without too much pain
Sounds fun. I did try Cosmic some time ago on a live disk and it had almost no features at that time, but was very snappy.
theyve come a long way, i keep an eye on them all the time. i think its possible that one day they will eclipse kde in functionality but theyre still in the adding features stage. its getting close though, maybe another year baked and i’ll swap entirely. its very snappy on cheap laptops, fully recommend it for that use case
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Thanks, I have this combo on the list (Niri was requested on it as well).
