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  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    I hope people in the us wake the fuck up and these companies start losing users to foreign ones by the millions

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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    28 days ago

    Probably a shallow response …

    But I always figured AI/LLMs are basically apocalyptic for all sorts of individualistic values in computing (including privacy but also independence and diversity).

    Whether they’re good or useful etc, I just struggle to see how they will ever be justifiable against these sorts of values.

    Sure, local models and our hardware will get better … but better than the state of the art from the big labs and providers? Given that data and training are the big bottlenecks on quality … I struggle to see how AI isn’t a complete feudal capturing of information computing and processing. Not to mention what happens to the pipeline that produces information content if everyone is only consuming it through the models that train on it.

    So for me the big question is, what’s our call on a possible (likely even?) future where we are forever stuck using cloud provided AI along with all of its negatives, in the same way that basically all of us has been and still is stuck using MS windows, Google and the big-social-media hellscape?

    For me, I baulk at this.

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        28 days ago

        Oh I hear you (and appreciate the response).

        For me, I can’t help but think of another alternative, which I’m surprised I haven’t heard of yet …

        stripping down one’s personal technological cognitive load to a stack of systems that can fit into one’s brain (like the Python mantra), focusing on learning that stack well building sustainable and stable systems, and then just detoxing from the increasingly polluted digital information stream (protected commons, traditional formats such as books and in person engagement … dunno).

        Depends on what the end goal is, but AIs seem to be about using tech more or just opting out of sovereignty. Something like the above seems to me to be about using tech less (in the end) and pushing toward being a secondary tool rather than an end of its own.

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    28 days ago

    IMHO LLM usage isn’t coherent with independence. That being said I wrote quite a bit on self-hosting LLMs. There are quite a few tools available, like ollama itself relying on llama.cpp that can both work locally and provide an API compatible replacement to cloud services. As you suggested though typically at home one doesn’t have the hardware, GPUs with 100+GB of VRAM, to run the state of the art. There is a middle ground though between full cloud, API key, closed source vs open source at home on low-end hardware : running STOA open models on cloud. It can be done on any cloud but it’s much easier to start with dedicated hardware and tooling, for that HuggingFace is great but there are multiples.

    TL;DR: closed cloud -> models on clouds -> self-hosted provide a better path to independence, including training.

  • ropatrick@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    I love the sound of this but can I ask, if the net goes down and you hardly notice, where do you get your ‘net’ from? Or is it that your intranet doesn’t need internet as such and everything is just local?

    I might have answered my own question there but I’m interested to understand it a bit more.

    Thanks!

  • Sims@lemmy.ml
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    28 days ago

    Yucky… The identity partner looks nasty. I bet all these corps are linked to the Epstein class and their think tanks. The 1% are taking control of their cattle…