Funnily enough, leading the proposal is Joshua Strobl, the lead dev of the budgie DE. More here https://joshuastrobl.social/@me/112197620423915344
Gnome is nice and minimalist. It’d be nice tto have built in extension by default to keep the dock always visible without having to activate it in top left corner (very unergonomic considering that the dock is at the bottom). It’s unacceptable that you have to install a plugin to keep it on, as a beginner user I didn’t even know to install extension manager and what extension to support. KDE on the other hand is too busy and complicated for new users.
It can also be used very simply though. It works out of the box with any changes necessary. The issue I find with gnome is that its simplicity quickly became a bottleneck for me. E.g. Konsole is just so great and I couldn’t live without it anymore
KDE looks basically like a Windows 10 desktop by default tho. That makes it easy for most people to get into it
Is this an April Fool? I trust nothing posted on 1 April!
Man, why do people publish serious announcements on April 1st? Between the XZ backdoor that almost pwned all of Linux, a Silksong update, Bellular News taking some absolutely degenerate stance with games “journalism”, and this, I don’t know what the fuck to believe.
Given that Fedora is a distro that aims to be on the frontier of new features and technologies, the inclusion of KDE seems like a much better fit than Gnome.
I don’t like KDE at all. Too busy, terrible-looking right click menu on the desktop (some lines long, some short). It’s that stuff that give me OCD. I like cleanliness in the UI.
Same here. I can’t stand the lack of cleanliness in UI. In Plasma, within 5 mins of usage, I can already notice imperfections everywhere.
If I recall correctly, the desktop right click menu was one of the things they fixed in Plasma 6, actually.
You have my vote. The out of the box experience would be polished and I have no doubt would be done very well.
I will happily use any desktop environment that allows me to bring up a summary of all active windows by pressing the super key. That’s just too ingrained in me now. I even find myself mindlessly doing it on Windows.
This would be a really nice change
That is going to be quite the debate. I’m sure it’ll be healthy (only half joking).
I’ll believe that when I see it. Redhat is fully invested in Gnome.
It’s probably not gonna happen, but it’s great that this discussion is happening at all. Maybe it’ll encourage Gnome to improve their customizability, which seems to be the main advantage point of KDE
Red Hat doesn’t have influence over the development of Fedora, that’s the job of FESCo. Red Hat owns the trademark and is one of the sponsors of the Fedora Project, but their interest is solely in enterprise applications (a task that is not suitable for Fedora), not in consumer desktop platforms. I’ve already discussed this at length here and here if you’d like more detail; there’s no point in rewriting it.
Please don’t! If RedHat start participating in KDE, it will kill it like it killed GNOME.
I’d be against this, despite using Plasma on one of my systems and having an overall positive view of the project. Although admittedly I do slightly prefer Gnome because consistency is something I’m really anal about, so there’s bias here.
Gnome just feels a lot more stable and consistent. It works well, has a good release cadence (although KDE is making steps to improve theirs), and most people who use Fedora are happy with it.
Critically, Gnome has good accessibility features, and they’re improving rapidly at the moment. I think good accessibility features are imperative for a workstation distro.
I’ve also never really heard any Fedora Plasma Spin users quality of Fedora’s work, or it being called a “Spin” instead of workstation. It’s already treated with pretty much the same level of care as Gnome is, so what would this achieve, other than months of bickering and a bit of confusion?
This is not April fools. The submitter did want to mess with people, though.
I might use XFCE… but PLEASE GO KDE… I CANNOT EXPLAIN MY LOATHING OF GNOME
I too hate Gnome with an unreasonable passion.
So I just don’t use it.
If others want to subject themselves to it, well, I’m not one to kink shame.
Slowly more and more distros are looking over to a KDE future. GNOME devs being so incredibly hard to work with and this feeling of a huge community that is KDE and with how polished Plasma 6 is becoming, many distros are finally looking to at least give Plasma a try as a default. GNOME is well polished but there are so many extremely important and urgently needed features that KDE already implemented that are not even being discussed for GNOME. Many distros are getting fed up with how slow GNOME is into advancing their desktop. They take 2 years to change a few buttons around. And now that Plasma 6 has a 6-month fixed release schedule, it finally aligns with what distros want.
First Valve shocked the corporate distro world by choosing the seemengly less stable KDE as their default for the Steam Deck, which proved to be an amazing choice after all. Then recently, Nobara Linux, one of the most used Fedora distros, also switched to KDE as the default. And now Fedora is discussing into switching the main distro too. Qt6 is also a really flexible and promising framework and developers seem to have more fun working with it than with GTK4.
Recent switchers from Windows also largely prefer KDE instead of the minimalist approach, macOS-like GNOME. And linux has been gaining a lot of popularity and market share recently, and I could bet that a lot of these new users are not on GNOME, at least not on vania GNOME.
Ah i see kde has fixed the issue where dropdowns had broken behavior when scrolling https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/kirigami/-/commit/f6ca218607ff7e5d5066eb3224154c3256cb9516 this was my main blocker why i couldn’t use it when i tried it around 2020. Maybe i could give it another try?
