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    8 months ago

    This is how the government and government supported large corporations work. I dont even know how you think this is related to capitalism.

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      8 months ago

      How a government in a capitalist country works perhaps. Certainly not how the government worked in USSR or how it works in places like Cuba, China, or Vietnam today.

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        8 months ago

        America is the least capitalist is has been probably in its history. Just because it was founded on something that was quite capitalistic doesnt mean it still is.

        Why not push for less regulations so that small business can thrive?

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            8 months ago

            And you keep encompassing more things in capitalism than belong. Why not push for less regulations so that small business can thrive?

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              I’m doing no such thing. Capitalist competition necessarily leads to monopolies because successful businesses grow and as they grow it takes increasingly more up front investment to compete with them. On top of it they can just undercut small businesses or buy them out. The game of monopoly is a perfect illustration of how capitalism works. Everybody starts on equal footing, and at the end of the game one players owns everything. That’s how capital concentration happens in real life under the capitalist dynamics.

              Meanwhile, the government represents the interests of the class that holds power in society and passes laws in their interest. Under capitalism it’s the capital owning class. These are the people who own the media, pay for election campaigns, lobbying, and so on. And it’s not just me saying this. Here’s what a study analyzing many decades of US policy concludes:

              https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

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                8 months ago

                I dont like monopolies either, but what monopolies are causing you the most harm? Mine would be the governemnt monopoly.

                I think you have fundamental mistake in that you seem to believe that the economy is a zero sum game but its just not how it works. The only zero sum game that I am worried about is the control of our rights with the governmnet.

                What specifically is it that you want peoples lives to look like?

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                  8 months ago

                  Government is not a monopoly the government is a management organization that resolves differences between capitalists. Meanwhile, if you can’t understand how capitalist monopolies cause harm then you’re beyond help. The whole climate crisis is caused by capitalist monopolies, just one example for you.

                  I think you have fundamental mistake in that you seem to believe that the economy is a zero sum game but its just not how it works. The only zero sum game that I am worried about is the control of our rights with the governmnet.

                  That literally has nothing to do with what I said which is that the economy works in the interest of the people who own capital, and these are the same people the government represents. You don’t even understand what the government is apparently.

                  What specifically is it that you want peoples lives to look like?

                  I want people to own the means of production. I want all businesses to be run as a mix of state owned enterprise and worker owned cooperatives. The state enterprise is good at providing common things everyone needs like healthcare, infrastructure, housing, and so on. These are things that need to be done regardless of profit motive. Meanwhile, private sector that’s owned by the workers is great at providing all the things where profit motive acts as a motivator. This isn’t rocket science.