the remaining differences are mostly about aesthetics and not about the use of violence to maintain hegemony

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    Yeah, it’s shit. But if we let bad be the enemy of better, we’ll never get anywhere.

    Do you think a world without the institutions o mentioned would do any better for Palestinians?

    As t least there’s still widespread support and sentiment among the populations of the western world, and Israel is very much a pariah state in many nations’ eyes. It’s just not within most nations’ power to intervene.

    Even then intervention is tricky. We don’t people to do what Trump did in Venezuela, because history has shown it doesn’t lead to better long term outcomes.

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      There is no world where mass genocide is “better” and I have nothing but contempt for people who think it is.

      And you can fuck off with your bullshit pretending that the West opposes Isreal but is just oh so reluctant about intervening. That is self absolving nonsense from a genocide apologist.

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        That is the most disingenuous interpretation of my comment I can imagine.

        You’re finding enemies in your own trenches my friend. The genocide in Gaza is absolutely horrific, and I am not making any excuses for it.

        I’m just saying we live in a better world now as a whole than years past, recent years notwithstanding. Think mid-Obama as maybe the most hopeful time in recent memory as far as advancement toward the Global Goals was concerned, and yeah I know Obama was still bombing foreign countries in the name of anti-terror and killing innocents to get at Obama Bin Laden.

        Do you find any optimism in the world or are you pure nihilism?

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          You are absolutely makeing excuses, and outright misrepresenting reality, for the West’s participation in the Gaza genocide. You are absolutely not in the same trenches as me, because I am opposed to the genocidal West, and you make excuses for them.

          I’m just saying we live in a better world now as a whole than years past, recent years notwithstanding. Think mid-Obama as maybe the most hopeful time in recent memory as far as advancement toward the Global Goals was concerned

          Pure vibes based air with literally nothing concrete to back it up. This is the hight of privileged solipsism to think the years after the GFC were some golden age. I don’t care how “hopeful” your privileged ass was, what you actually mean is that you preferred it when the war criminal in charge of the US Empire was well spoken.

          Do you find any optimism in the world or are you pure nihilism?

          I find optimism in seeing the clear signs that the American empire is nearing its end.