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BrikoX@lemmy.zip to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

China using families as 'hostages' to quash dissent abroad

www.bbc.co.uk

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China using families as 'hostages' to quash dissent abroad

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BrikoX@lemmy.zip to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
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Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/863209

Archived version: https://archive.ph/5Ok1c
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230731013125/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-66337328

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    And the argument from ignorance continues.

    All I have to say is read more and be online less.

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      It’s not from ignorance. It’s based on the people I know from China.

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        Newsflash, you can find people in any country who don’t like their government, and you’ll obviously see these people over represented in the population that left the country. The fallacy of your argument is to conclude that the people you know hold the opinion of the majority of people in China. I made plenty of friends who from China in university, and most of them went back after graduating. Vast majority of people in China support their government and are proud of their country. Even western polling admits this.

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          Cool story. China is still authoritarian.

          China is a one party system with a “president” for life. Fancy that up all you want: still authoritarian with a dictator.

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            You used so many words to tell us that you don’t know anything about Chinese political system and expose yourself as being confidently wrong. Maybe spend some time educating yourself instead of flaunting your ignorance in public.

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              If you thought that was “so many words” reality is too complicated for you.

              “The Government of the People’s Republic of China is a unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party authoritarian political system under the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_China

              I look forward to you correcting that wiki page lol

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                The fact that you use a wiki page as an authoritative source just further exposes what an utter clown you are. Let’s correct that for you:

                • https://www.tbsnews.net/world/china-more-democratic-america-say-people-98686
                • https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
                • https://en.news-front.info/2020/06/27/studies-have-shown-that-china-is-more-democratic-than-the-united-states-russia-is-nearby-and-ukraine-is-at-the-bottom/
                • https://web.archive.org/web/20230511041927/https://6389062.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/6389062/Canva images/Democracy Perception Index 2023.pdf
                • https://ash.harvard.edu/publications/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time

                The people who actually live in China consider their democracy to work far better than pretty much any western shithole country that calls itself a democracy and have consistently higher satisfaction with their government because unlike in the west they see it working in their interest.

                Thinking that the number of parties is a measure of democracy demonstrates an infantile understanding of the concept. Democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable by the majority. Procedural democracies such as seen in the west demonstrably produce terrible results in practice. As a recent study of US shows, the system does not actually work in a democratic fashion

                What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

                Since your cognitive development stops at reading wiki articles here’s another one you should read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism

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                  Here. I’ll help: What are the other political parties in China?

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                    • Chinese Communist Party
                    • Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang
                    • China Democratic League
                    • China National Democratic Construction Association
                    • China Association for Promoting Democracy
                    • Chinese Peasants’ and Workers’ Democratic Party
                    • China Zhi Gong Party
                    • Jiusan Society
                    • Taiwan Democratic Self-Government League
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                    Here you go ignoramus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_China

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                  So if I said “fuck the CCP” in China that’d be ok right?

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                    Yes, it’s legal to be an idiot in China.

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                  Common Yog… Send me another rant haha

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