gtk3, gtk4 (probably?) qt, qt in flatpak, gtk3 in flatpak, gtk4 in flatpak (probably)… I’m just not fighting it anymore
Meanwhile kde:
i found the original in reddit, from about four years ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/tffr4l/some_kde_plasma_uiux_problems/#lightbox
(i’m not saying it’s related, but at least people should be able to read the text now)
Thanks, I updated my post.
Oh for fuck’s sake…
Pixel perfect doesn’t mean that things will feel aligned. This is a very naive vision of UI design. I’m not saying that things can’t be improved but this is not a valid point
I feel it has gotten much better in recent years. The first time I tried KDE 5 it looked weird to me. But now I acutally quite like KDE 6. Or maybe I’ve just learned to tolerate it…
Actually, I don’t. What am I looking at?
Kde has mostly small padding and alignment issues instead of having a completely random design.
I can live with that.I have a theory that if everything was pixel perfect, centered, perfectly aligned and looked the same, the thing would look too sterile. There’s basically a perfect world, written down in books and texts that is being taught to students and there’s the real world. In many areas, these two do not match and the above image is the result of someone’s text book world view not matching the real world.
Could the discover store have a better UI? Yes. Will a centered, down-anchored, pixel perfect button make it better? Subjective.
sorry for the “venting” post, but i had to laugh as i rearranged my windows
As someone using a tiling wm idk what these buttons are for.
Unfortunately, the issue is more widespread in the world of UI design. Even in closed ecosystems like Windows, you have a random mix of different UI styles, and this cancer called “flat design” makes things even worse. Carl Svensson published a nice blog post about exactly this issue a couple of years ago: https://datagubbe.se/decusab/
I’m very glad to see projects like libadapta as themable alternatives to the libadwaita dogma. I’ve painstakingly themed my desktop to look and feel like a cohesive, modernized NT 4 workstation and should seriously consider contributing to libadapta in anticipation of libadwaita coming to more and more programs.
I am very stubborn about my computer’s GUI, but also hopeful the community can bring back theming where GNOME is dead set against it. If they can make WindowBlinds for modern Windows, the equivalent in Linux is definitely achievable.
A bit off-topic, but I really appreciate projects that respect their upstreams, and attempt to improve in their own ways (from libadapta’s README):
LibAdwaita has the right to be what it wants to be and to not support what it doesn’t want to support.
Oh I am so looking into this.
All my homies hate libadwaita it’s bad.
Throw a JetBrains app in there for a complete monstrosity 🤣
As a Gnome’r I tend to lean towards apps that I can make look like they belong, but I put up with JetBrains because there tools work really well for my needs
the anti-libadwaita people were right all along.
I honestly don’t midn such a fragmentation if at a functional level all window decorations behave the same. Otherwise it’s mental
this from the people that stonewalled server side decorations in wayland
adw-gtk3 contributes a small bit to the consistency of window decorations
I was under the impression that one could force these to be themed, is that inaccurate? KDE Fedora btw.
They all look great man, congrats
For some reason the Rust GUI toolkits don’t use WM’s window header.
This is the kind of shit that stops people from migrating to Linux.
Lack of consistency in the UI. We’re in 2025 dammit. Not 1995.
Edit: okay, WTF Windows is now even worse?!?
This below is windows 11 consistency, within their own os context menus. I am not even starting on the fact that window decorations there too are a non standardised mess.
I agree that lack of UI consistency is less than ideal, and very real in Linux, but let’s not pretend that this is a main issue stopping people from migrating (from an equally inconsistent OS)
Okay Windows has gone to shit way more than I thought in the last 10 years.
Oh yeah, I am forced to use it for work and it’s just incredible how innovative Microsoft is at making things worse. Takes real talent at that point.
Yea… not to mention the file browser context menu takes five seconds to open for me (on a very high end machine!)
It’s sad that this gets downvoted to hell. As a MacOS user who appreciates beautiful UI, this is a major pain point for me on Linux. And yes, Windows is the absolute worst at this.
Same.
How is a kernel meant to enforce anything about UI?
I think GUI development should favour server-side decorations for consistency’s sake, but this is more of a cultural thing with what application developers are choosing to do, rather than anything “Linux” can do about.
