It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don’t need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google’s most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don’t provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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    You can stop using Google and Apple… It’s that simple. But it seems that you, like many other, want their cake and eat it too…

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        How it’s possible to stop using google or apple? By doing it…

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          sure, am i supposed to live without a smartphone? at some point chasing privacy for the sake of itself just means i’ll have a worse life.

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      It’s different for every one, but for me it would mean, I can’t use Microsoft authenticator, so I can’t do my job anymore, as it is required to access my mail, teams, files, logging worked hours, etc etc.

      I can’t use any of my bank apps anymore, I can’t use my phone anymore for paying in a store or checking in public transportation.

      And many more apps that would stop working.

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      Sure but what’s a viable alternative for normies? It would be simple if a viable alternative existed. For normies, I reiterate.

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        It’s to do the grass root movement, and get enough to demand it, for a provider to feel the need to expand their customer base that way…

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            Until they don’t… and please don’t call then normies, when they really are manipulated…

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              Normie is not an insult or derogatory. It just means “normal person”, who is usually not very tech savy.

              Most Normies don’t care about privacy. They know, accept and are ok with their data being collected and sold in “free” services.

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                I don’t agree. Most people I know, just don’t know how it should be different…