• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    The very idea of being a landlord is pretty evil though? Like in a housing shortage you’re hoarding property and profiting off it.

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      1 year ago

      Where would people live then? Those don’t want to buy. Under the bridge?

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      1 year ago

      Like in a housing shortage you’re hoarding property and profiting off it.

      Housing shortages are caused by bad government policy: namely, low-density zoning. Direct your anger towards the entity that deserves it, and make them fix their fuck-up.

      (Note: I’m not making some kind of Libertarian “all government is bad” argument here. I’m saying that in this specific case, the laws need to be changed.)

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      1 year ago

      Your assuming everyone wants to own property over renting.

      House and property ownership has a lot of responsibility and expenses involved. Your water heater breaks well there is $1000+ your roof needs replacing there is 30K. All of that goes away when you rent as it isn’t your responsibility.

      If you own property it can be harder and more risky to relocate. I know a few people that bought in 2007 and then were stuck as they couldn’t afford to move because they were upsidedown on their house.

      Not saying renting is all sunshine and roses. I personally would rather own then rent but home ownership isn’t for everyone.

      But I do think it is a major problem when you have a few companies buying up all property so no one else can afford it. But I don’t think being a Landlord is inherently evil.

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            1 year ago

            Correct, but only one mountain can be climbed at a time. We have more reliable food sources than housing sources right now.

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          1 year ago

          In a perfect world sure, government is fully funded and runs smoothly people care about the everyone etc… etc…

          But in reality I really would be very hesitant to want to live in that world. It is very scary to have a single organization control all your housing. At least with the way it currently is if you don’t like your landlord you can go somewhere else. If the government owns everything your kind of stuck dealing with the same organization no matter where you go. Governments are not immune to corruption and can screw you over even worse in some cases then an organization.

          In my opinion the best solution is many private citizens and small rental companies combined with government enforcing laws protecting both parties. However one big issues I am seeing is huge companies buy up everything in a small area and build a monopolies on rentals. That isn’t good either.

    • TheSambassador@lemmy.world
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      So while I generally agree with your sentiment, there are some obvious ways that sometime could be an ethical landlord.

      What if you have a house that’s too big, so you convert a floor into an apartment? You’re adding to the number of housing units available. Should you be forced to sell a portion of your house/building to whoever wants to live there? Or should you be able to rent it out to someone at a reasonable rate? Do we want rules that discourage people from potentially adding units to the market?

      I feel like the “all landlords are evil” narrative is way too simplistic, and that simplistic view turns off people who would otherwise support reasonable limits on landlords and housing ownership. Like, it’s obvious that we need limits and taxes on people who own multiple properties, and it’s obvious that there are companies that exploit renters and drive up prices, but it’s all more complicated than just “landlords evil lol”.

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        I rent my property because it’s the only way I could’ve bought it at my age and I use that money to pay for the mortgage of it while I live somewhere I don’t want to (under parent’s wing in a crappy city) but angry people rarely if ever consider all scenarios

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          1 year ago

          So you’re keeping home ownership away from someone who can afford to pay your mortgage is what you’re really saying.

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            How did you come to this conclusion? If someone is renting it means they they can’t pay for mortgage. Otherwise they would’ve done so. He said, that he needed to make a 20% payment to even get the mortgage. Idk how much money that was for him, but where I live that would be around 130k$. Clearly not everyone has that kind of cash.

            And what’s your solution? Disallow renting properties for which mortgage wasn’t posted in full?

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              If you buy it, live in it. Stop contributing to the housing crisis. Greed got us here, it certainly won’t get us out.