Bread and Circuses (@breadandcircuses@climatejustice.social)
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Attached: 1 image Today, there are around 1.31 billion personal vehicles (cars, trucks, and SUVs) in the world. 🚙 Of those, only about 2% are hybrid or electric. The other 98% are ICE vehicles burning gasoline/petrol. By 2050, it’s estimated we’ll have about 2.21 billion vehicles in the world. That’s a HUGE number, almost 70% greater than today. But how many of those will be electric? Instead of only 2%, it’s expected they will increase to around 31% of the total. That sounds great! 😃 More EVs is a good thing, right? Well, if 31% are EVs in 2050, that means the other 69% will *still* be ICE vehicles burning gas/petrol. So the number of cars and trucks and SUVs burning fossil fuels will go UP from 1.28 billion now to about 1.52 billion by 2050. That’s… not so good. 😠 We don’t *need* more cars, more traffic, more congestion, more pollution, more road damage, and more CO2 emissions. What we need is: ❇️ More bicycles ❇️ More electric bikes ❇️ More pedestrians ❇️ More mass transit ❇️ More light rail NOT MORE CARS!! #Environment #Climate #ClimateChange #ClimateCrisis #CO2 #Emissions
  • utopiah@lemmy.ml
    4·
    2 years ago

    Yes, obviously, neither electronic nor self driving cars are the solutions. They STILL are cars that are cluttering the streets of our cities, both while running or while parking.

    Of course they are SOME use cases where one truly needs a car but they are very limited, so limited usually other solutions are much better, e.g cycling but using a car or car sharing when one can’t get delivery done.

    We, as citizens, “only” have to be honest with our actual usual. Sure from time to time we go from city A to city B but 95% of the time we go from neighborhood A, our flat, to neighborhood B, our office. That’s what most of us do twice a day, 200 days a year. We do NOT use cars for more than that and in such contexts, a bike, electrical or not, is better along most axis, not just price but also convenience.

    Hopefully we’ll stop being convinced by ads showing beautiful cars in Corsica, Toscani, French riviera or Iceland while in truth, we are stuck in the boring rings surrounding our capitals.

  • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    I don’t trust these estimates. By 2050 there’s no way regular ICE cars will be common. Once any given region goes past about 33% electric vehicles gas stations won’t be profitable anymore and will shutter forever. When that happens it’ll be like falling dominos as gas prices go up and more people will purchase electric vehicles out of necessity as ICE vehicles will become unaffordable.

    I also seriously doubt these estimates are taking into account the fact that battery technology and the rate of battery manufacturing is improving at an exponential rate. Yes, the curve is shooting up that fast!

    Also, this title is missing a big problem that all vehicles have: The tires are one of their biggest sources of pollution.

      • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        The part of ICE vehicles that will become unaffordable is the gas, not the vehicle itself. In fact, I expect the price of gas to result in even cheaper ICE vehicles because they’ll have to make up for the price of gas somehow.

        Not sure it’ll keep pace with the price reductions going on in the land of EVs and batteries though. The only reason why EVs are so expensive is because of the supply/demand curve (and the fact that manufacturers seem to be focusing on cars with loads of luxury features). Sooner or later the supply will catch up and their price will plummet.

  • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
    21·
    2 years ago

    What are the environmental impacts of recycling an electric car battery? How much nonrenewable energy went into recycling the battery?