After many weeks spend on downloading and installing various things for linux, he complains that he needs to download drivers for windows, a process that will take one afternoon or less. Makes sense. I understand that Linux is a tech toy for a techy, but pretend that somehow it is easier installation and setup than windows for average person is just dishonest. Even which flavor of linux one should install creates a stupor for non-tech person (or a person who never used linux).
The install Linux is vague because each distro (not themed or flavoures) is effevtively a unique OS, and user onboarding is a different experience per disro. However if you have ever installed Windows to an unformated drive compared to something like Zorin install. Windows is the harder install for nontech people
Quite possible. But chance of non-technical person to do Windows install on new computer is zero. Re-instal, on the other hand, is very easy - I have done it couple of times.
The thing is, most people don’t consider installing an OS. Odds are the computer came with one.
Otherwise (aside from the paralysis of choice) neither Linux nor Windows present more or less of a challenge to install.
The people who find the most difficulty seem to be the ones who think they know better or have become used to the windows way of doing things.
As an aside, Last windows install I did required setting two registry keys during the install process. It was far more annoying than a typical Linux install.
I’m with you with (distribution) choice (that’s definitely stressful, especially when you aren’t used to actually having to choose what kind of computing experience you want) but driver/program distribution on Linux is less painful/easier than on Windows on average. If your hardware happens to be supported, everything should work out of the box without the need to install drivers; the biggest problem for more or less average users would be having to install Nvidia drivers if they have a Nvidia GPU.
Installing software is generally as easy as opening your distribution’s software store, searching what you need and hitting the install button.
Is not it true with Windows? Plug and play? And while I did not study this, I strongly suspect that it is more true for Windows than for Linux.
I don’t use Windows much, but recently I booted it up and found my graphics tablet didn’t work. I needed to install a driver from Wacom, then reboot. It got very confused about whether my tablet or my monitor was the primary monitor, and moving between screens was somehow worse than Linux. On Linux, the tablet driver worked out of the box, but I had to adjust display scaling for both my monitors to co-exist peacefully. I also had to switch from GNOME to KDE and switch to Wayland on my NVIDIA card to get Krita to work properly (interface was split across both monitors and couldn’t resize it). GNOME’s multi-monitor handling was bad, regardless of whether I used Wayland or X11. Multi-monitor handling on KDE was better than Windows…in the end.
I’ve been using Linux for about a decade now. Windows for even longer before that. We still have some Windows laptops in our house. Even a decade ago when I first started trying Linux out, it was far more plug and play than Windows and still is.
The overwhelming majority of the time drivers are provided by the Linux kernel - install your distro and everything just works.
Windows I always have to go to various websites, download files for various devices and then install them.
Even when I need something specific on Linux, one store (in my case Arch repositories, including AUR), I can use one interface and download and install anything in one step - I skip the looking for the manufacturers website, going to the website, finding the software download, downloading it and then going through the installation process on Windows.
Linux has some things that are more difficult, but overall is infinitely easier to use.
After many weeks spend on downloading and installing various things for linux, he complains that he needs to download drivers for windows, a process that will take one afternoon or less. Makes sense. I understand that Linux is a tech toy for a techy, but pretend that somehow it is easier installation and setup than windows for average person is just dishonest. Even which flavor of linux one should install creates a stupor for non-tech person (or a person who never used linux).
The install Linux is vague because each distro (not themed or flavoures) is effevtively a unique OS, and user onboarding is a different experience per disro. However if you have ever installed Windows to an unformated drive compared to something like Zorin install. Windows is the harder install for nontech people
Quite possible. But chance of non-technical person to do Windows install on new computer is zero. Re-instal, on the other hand, is very easy - I have done it couple of times.
use case: When your hdd or ssd fails compketely and you buy a new drive off of amazon
There is nothing difficult about installing Windows, whether the drive is unformatted or not.
Have your mom try it, and my point is something like Zorin is easier.
The thing is, most people don’t consider installing an OS. Odds are the computer came with one.
Otherwise (aside from the paralysis of choice) neither Linux nor Windows present more or less of a challenge to install.
The people who find the most difficulty seem to be the ones who think they know better or have become used to the windows way of doing things.
As an aside, Last windows install I did required setting two registry keys during the install process. It was far more annoying than a typical Linux install.
I’m with you with (distribution) choice (that’s definitely stressful, especially when you aren’t used to actually having to choose what kind of computing experience you want) but driver/program distribution on Linux is less painful/easier than on Windows on average. If your hardware happens to be supported, everything should work out of the box without the need to install drivers; the biggest problem for more or less average users would be having to install Nvidia drivers if they have a Nvidia GPU. Installing software is generally as easy as opening your distribution’s software store, searching what you need and hitting the install button.
Is not it true with Windows? Plug and play? And while I did not study this, I strongly suspect that it is more true for Windows than for Linux.
I don’t use Windows much, but recently I booted it up and found my graphics tablet didn’t work. I needed to install a driver from Wacom, then reboot. It got very confused about whether my tablet or my monitor was the primary monitor, and moving between screens was somehow worse than Linux. On Linux, the tablet driver worked out of the box, but I had to adjust display scaling for both my monitors to co-exist peacefully. I also had to switch from GNOME to KDE and switch to Wayland on my NVIDIA card to get Krita to work properly (interface was split across both monitors and couldn’t resize it). GNOME’s multi-monitor handling was bad, regardless of whether I used Wayland or X11. Multi-monitor handling on KDE was better than Windows…in the end.
I’m not really sure which of these is worse.
I’ve been using Linux for about a decade now. Windows for even longer before that. We still have some Windows laptops in our house. Even a decade ago when I first started trying Linux out, it was far more plug and play than Windows and still is.
The overwhelming majority of the time drivers are provided by the Linux kernel - install your distro and everything just works.
Windows I always have to go to various websites, download files for various devices and then install them.
Even when I need something specific on Linux, one store (in my case Arch repositories, including AUR), I can use one interface and download and install anything in one step - I skip the looking for the manufacturers website, going to the website, finding the software download, downloading it and then going through the installation process on Windows.
Linux has some things that are more difficult, but overall is infinitely easier to use.