• arthurpizza@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Banning websites in the year 2024 is never going to work. The average user is more savvy than the average lawmaker.

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      6 months ago

      IDK is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it’s phone? And if something is banned in a country companies are far less likely to put in effort in it.

      So even if people can still use it, technically, TikTok lifes of selling scam shit to people… If you have the skills to install a VPN your probably also not falling for that stuff.

      I actually see that as a win. TikTok is not a platform for political discussion or private communication (by design) so I don’t hate the idea of it getting banned.

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        I’m not on tiktok but my understanding is that there’s a lot of Palestinians on there whose voice otherwise wouldn’t be heard from the taxpayers that are funding their genocide.

        That’s a very positive political consequence of the platform.

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          Sorry to say that but that sounds like a “Hitler built the Autobahn” argument for me. Don’t be fooled TikTok is highly controlled and influenced by the Chinese government. Yes TikTok is promoting the oppression of the Palestinian people because this topic coincidentally proved to be quite effective in supporting Chinese government agenda and distract from their own problems. The voices of other oppressed people are still silenced on that very same platform, see almost every inner chines dispute.

          And it’s not that TikTok would be the only platform that Palestinian voices could be and are actually heard. You can speak about this on almost every other platform. Plus: if all this people would just leave TikTok and use the Fidivers instead this would be a double win for everyone including the other oppressed voices on TikTok.

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            6 months ago

            I think you made a valid point, and its absurd you got down voted

            I do think its ironic that you’re advocating for an exodus from mainstream platforms to the fediverse. Those mainstream users are exactly the same users who don’t understand what the downvote button is for…

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        6 months ago

        IDK is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it’s phone?

        Yes. From the article a, 2500% spike in VPN usage.

        TikTok is not a platform for political discussion

        Yet, despite that, it’s working as one. Effectively.

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          Yet, despite that, it’s working as one. Effectively No it don’t! It is a platform designed to get peoples attention and forward it to a scam add. Everything that goes beyond surface level is not suited for this platform and sorted out and even worst it’s highly controlled by the chines government. This is not a platform for political discussion and public dispute. Maybe people think they could use it for that but that’s a big mistake!

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          Just because it’s much more common in those countries compared to USA or Europe to use a VPN it doesn’t mean the average user there is actually using them. If there are even regions where it’s forbidden to use a VPN (than that’s highly concerning more than a TikTok ban or anything else!) it’s even more unlikely the average user will have VPN access.

          And again all of my other points I think are much more important in that thought process.

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    6 months ago

    Say what you want about tiktok but damn if it isn’t extremely effective at sending information out of reach from governments, I don’t know what it is. You can see they fear it hard.

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      It’s directly controlled by Chinese government so please don’t tell me TikTok would be out of reach… maybe for US Government :D It is only effective in spreading stuff that CCP supports or doesn’t effect them.

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    6 months ago

    This government is an absolute farce leading us straight to the victory of the far-right. Fuck them.