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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games
Gee, wonder why.
That’s a good thing - as the consumer.
The less exclusives, the better. We don’t need lock-ins, we need open platforms and open systems. If I want a plug&play gaming experience I can buy a console, if I want maximum performance and quality in a more maintenance and setup intensive package I can build my own PC.
its almost like it needed the exclusives to be worth it
Here are the trends with previous consoles:
PS1 : 455 -> PS2 : 512 -> PS3 : 180 -> PS4 : 58 -> PS5 : 15
Xbox : 106 -> Xbox 360 : 214 -> Xbox One : 12
Nintendo 64 : 129 -> Nintendo Wii : 328 -> Nintendo Wii U : 38 -> Nintendo Switch : 174
That’s super interesting. Do you have a source you could link for this data?
I just referenced the data in the wikipedia container article here for some select consoles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ASingle-platform_video_games?wprov=sfla1
They’re a gamer what other credentials do you need?
So the Xbox one series (aka Xbox one 2) has zero dedicated games?
It depends on how the source categorized the information and how Microsoft classifies the Xbox One versus the Xbox One Series (whether as being two actual different consoles, or two versions of the same console.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ASingle-platform_video_games
There is only one entry for anything related to Xbox One as far as I can see so I expect the 12 it notes are distributed across all versions of the Xbox One, or that there are 0 dedicated games for the Xbox One Series proper.
Jesus, only 4 games in that otherwise short short list ring a bell for me.
Its a good time to be a PC player. I mean, it was before. But it is now, too.
For me, it was:
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You couldn’t get one for ages when it came out, so I missed the initial hype period.
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When it did finally become available, it was prohibitively expensive.
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There are no real killer exclusives or features so no particular reason to upgrade, aside from games looking nicer.
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Sony is releasing all the good stuff on PC now, so if I want to play a nicer-looking version of a PS4 game I can just do that.
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Steam Deck
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My ps5 is basically a really big PS4 lately.
Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.
It also doesn’t help that a bunch of games have an upgrade charge, I mostly just use it for Blu-ray lately.
“meaning the other 59 million must still be using the PlayStation 4.”
That’s not what that means.
As of last December there were still 2 million active PS3 users.
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2023/12/26/ps3-monthly-active-users-report/
I’d imagine there’s still a limited number of PS Vita and PSTV accounts too.
I still use my PS3, enough great and cheap games and can play my PS1 and 2 games on the big screen with wireless controllers.
Newer games I play on PC anyways.
it has no games and was plagued by availability/price issues for a BIG while there.
why should anyone buy it?
Blind fanboyism?
All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck, so there’s no need for a giant console cosplaying as a router.
I upgraded to PC running Linux instead
Well, I can only speak from my own experience.
When the PS5 launched I wanted to upgrade but you literally couldn’t get it because it wasn’t in stock anywhere. You could only find it on eBay of some private seller that started at almost double the price, no, thank you. Then Sony introduced this “Register and on the next event you get a slot to buy one from the official Website” which was great. I got invited the first time and literally couldn’t buy it because the website was broken. Whenever I wanted to select my payment method the checkout got blank and there was nothing you could do. Even worse was that you couldn’t hard refresh the shop because this would have killed the session that the website needed to allow you to buy it. So, even switching browsers with the same “invitation link” didn’t work. I reported this to the support, but they didn’t really care. half a year later, I got my second invitation link and the same happened then as well. I reported it again to the support, but they still didn’t know what to do with that information or wanted to troubleshoot this.
And now, there isn’t really a need for it anyway. The Games that I would have wanted to buy on the PS5 released on the PC.
PS3 lets me play online for free. Later consoles don’t.
PS3 plays CDs and stores media files on its internal hard drive. Later consoles are limited to external storage solutions for media playback (and no, streaming doesn’t count).
PS3 has a snazzy user interface. Later consoles have… a user interface, I guess.
PS3 plays PS1 disks. Some models even play PS2 disks. None of the later consoles do that, having a strong reliance on digital downloads for PS1 and PS2 compatibility, meaning some games are straight up limited to the earlier consoles.
PS3 even lets me transfer games and media to a PSP or PS Vita through a USB connection. Guess what, the later consoles straight up don’t do that.
Don’t have an HDTV? PS3 works with composite, component, and even S-Video in addition to working with HDMI. It even downscales Blu-ray Disks to fit on your super small screen. Got an HDTV? PS3 upscales your DVDs to fit your super big screen. Later consoles only work with HDMI, and I’m not sure if the upscaling/downscaling thing with DVDs and Blu-ray even works or not.
The choice is yours.
I’ve recently fallen in love with the PSWii60 generation of gaming and playing a lot of PS3 games. It might be the best console ever made.
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Someone else mentioned the lack of a browser on the PS5 too. This doesn’t apply to PS4 so I didn’t mention it in my comment.
If they would make them backwards compatible I would be more likely to upgrade it still bugs me that they stopped doing that. I miss my old PS3. That thing was awesome I even installed Linux on it and had emulators working… the good old days.
It is backwards compatible, though?
Yeah my mistake. It is with ps3 games. My default is to think everything is terrible now. It wouldn’t be that hard to support back to ps1 I’d pay extra for the option.
I have appreciated the backwards compatibility of my Xbox. The studio closures and dearth of games, less so
Get a PS5 and become less than appreciative about bad backwards compatibility AND studio closures.
I still don’t have a 4k TV either. The PS5 is friggin HUGE. My space is at a premium.
You know what? I barely play the games I already have. I should just go to the gym.
I still have a PS2…
I have a ps1, 2, 3 and 4, a psp, a vita, I also have a NA snes, OG xbox, xbox360 and xbox one. I pretty much don’t play with any of them, I work too much…
I only bought a ps4 well after the 5 dropped, and only because my pal had got a new xbox and wasn’t playing with his ps4 anymore. Long story short I got the ps4, 3 controllers, and 5 hardcopy games for £50 and a joint. Until I can get a ps5 for that…I ain’t upgrading
IMO improving graphics technology is a case of diminishing returns. Sure you can always make a better looking game by throwing more processing power at it, but that has (at best) a minor effect on things like gameplay and story. Like seriously, if Squenix had decided to make FF7: Rebirth in the PS3 era, other then some uglier graphics how much would the game have have been different?
And (to actually tie this in to the thread) that’s the reason PS5 sales have been so sluggish. What do you really need those PS5 graphics for? I mean my PC is still running hardware from 5-10 years ago, because there isn’t anything I really need to upgrade for. Most of what I’ve been playing is indy titles and for the few graphic intensive games I want to play they’ll usually run if I lower some graphics settings.
And Nintendo proved this right by making successful games on underpowered systems. The switch it’s basically an Android tablet from last decade sold with crazy markup but talented game designers make compelling games
Sure, in the store they have 3rd party do lazy shitty ports like this https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/jello-run-switch/ but I feel it has more interesting games than the photorealistic ones on PS5, except the masterpieces by insomniac studio, but those can also be played on PS4 or PC
The PS5 doesn’t even have a browser because they’re scared of exploits
Why not just have some hardened Firefox with auto updates instead of licensing a browser from a company specialized in exploitable browsers for consoles? Nobody uses netfront, why Sony and Nintendo are so obsessed with it?
