• Kogasa@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    Ehh, among American academic mathematicians, including 0 is the fringe position. It’s not a “debate,” it’s just a different convention. There are numerous ISO standards which would be highly unusual in American academia.

    FWIW I was taught that the inclusion of 0 is a French tradition.

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      5 months ago

      The US is one of 3 countries on the planet that still stubbornly primarily uses imperial units. “The US doesn’t do it that way” isn’t a great argument for not adopting a standard.

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      5 months ago

      This isn’t strictly true. I went to school for math in America, and I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a zero-exclusive definition of the natural numbers.

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      4 months ago

      I have yet to meet a single logician, american or otherwise, who would use the definition without 0.

      That said, it seems to depend on the field. I think I’ve had this discussion with a friend working in analysis.