• MudMan
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    04 months ago

    As fas as I know there’s nothing keeping restaurants or bars from charging to use the toilets. Also as far as I know, and I’ve used public toilets in restaurants and bars in most of the countries you list many, many times over several decades, those are exceedingly rare and absolutely not the norm. That was true 40 years ago and it’s true today.

    The type of toilet is a different thing and yeah, until maybe the late 90s a lot of Europe was no stranger to squatting toilets. Honestly, for pubs and places where you’re mostly disposing of the drinks you’re having, I’m not even sure they’re a bad idea. Less accessible and whatnot, but I’m not sure a sit down toilet with a carefully developed patina of beer urine developed over years of sloppy drunken aim is a safer or cleaner proposition.

    • @jarfil@beehaw.org
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      4 months ago

      Right now it depends on the health code, which depends on each city’s council and particular situation (like, if the city has no potable tap water, then it makes no sense to have a regulation to serve it for free).

      On the EU level, there has been back and forth about:

      • free restrooms for patrons
      • free public restrooms
      • free tap water at bars and restaurants
      • free feminine hygiene products at restrooms (along with toilet paper)

      It’s an ongoing debate, that on one side would provide all of the above for basic humanitarian reasons, but on the other side has restaurant owners up in arms about extra expenses.

      40 years ago

      That’s about when I saw a guy take a dump directly into the river instead of going to the “pay what you wish” bathroom. They’ve remodeled the piers since then, removed the stairs going down to water level, put a couple free public restrooms along the way, and enacted stricter regulations that turned the river from foamy brown to murky green.