Nice, can we just do the same with ext3 and ext4 now?
Sure, as soon as there’s a stable replacement available.
I wouldn’t put my mission-critical file server on BTRFS.I wouldn’t put my mission-critical file server on BTRFS.
Oh, but I and a lot of people do and it is way more reliable than ext* filesystems ever were. Maybe ZFS or XFS is more your style then? Ext4 is very, very prone to total failure and complete data loss at the slightest hardware issue. I’m not saying you should rely on any filesystem ever, backups are important and should be there, the thing it that recovering from backups takes time and the amount of recovery that ext forced me into over the years isn’t just acceptable.
I used to associate btrfs with the word unreliable for years based on what I’ve read here and there, while ext4 appears to be rock solid. Pointing to sources for this is not easy though. Here’s a start.
See Features and Caveats here for Btrfs : https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Btrfs#Features
For Ext4 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Ext4
ext4 (fourth extended file system) is an open source disk filesystem and most recent version of the extended series of filesystems. It is the primary file system in use by many Linux systems rendering it to be arguably the most stable and well tested file system supported in Linux.
The “Caveats” section for BTRFS is trash, it is all about a ENOSPC issue that requires you to low level mess with the thing or run the fs for years over constant writes without any kind maintenance (with automatic defragmentation explicitly disabled). Frankly I can point from the top of my head real issues they aren’t speaking about: RAID56 (everything?), RAID10 (improve reading performance with more parallelization).
If we take subvolumes, snapshots, deduplication, CoW, checksums and compression in consideration then there’s no reason to ever use ext4 as it is just… archaic. Synology is pushing for BRTFS at home and business so they must have analytics backing that as well.
You will still be able to mount an ext2 file system with the kernel until ext4 support is removed. That is still going to be a long, long time.
Wow, 1993 to 2024, not a bad first-class support lifetime.
So should ext3 be deprecated for the same reason? Seams it also has the 2038 problem.
Thanks for that! which made me read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#ext4 Maybe high time for myself to learn more about ZFS.
Same here lol, just read through ext{2…4} as well as Btrfs and Bcachefs (and B Trees of course). What a wonderful unplanned deep dive.
Bcachefs sounds awesome
The ext4 driver can read ext2/ext3 partitions while supporting the 2038 time issue
The only change here is the driver loading the filesystem
Ext3 support is already only available through the ext4 driver