I’m not a marketing person but maybe they should try making an OS people actually want.
They do this every 4-5 years. Nobody is ever bothered enough to cause a problem for Microsoft’s bottom line.
Why would they do that when people use this one all the same?
They do. It’s called Windows 10 LTSC.
Got to say they convinced me at last and I finally upgraded.
…to linuxNever.Going.Back.
I like mint. Everyone says it beginner friendly, like in a bad way, but stuff just working sounds good to me.
Are they spamming people with this on computers they know don’t meet system requirements?
You better believe they are. I get it about every other month, and my laptop doesn’t meet those requirements.
I turned off secure boot and didn’t get any popups for windows 11 ever
You might at some point, you don’t actually need secure boot turned on for Windows 11 your PC just needs to be capable of secure boot and use UEFI mode rather than legacy boot
Well that isn’t good. I hope I can get by with Linux
Can Microsoft be any more annoying?
I had to laugh when I searched for “Vivaldi” in Edge on a new installation and Bing said “There’s no reason to switch to a new browser!”
There are tons of reasons. Their insistence that there are no reasons is a good example of a reason.
I see Linux in my future, as I just don’t have the cash for a new rig.
I have to be careful though, as it’s my family PC, and the rest of my family aren’t going to tolerate much of a learning curve. It really needs to just work out of the box.
Considering Zorin OS. Hopefully I can get it on my SSD next to Windows so I can dual-boot for a while to test the water…
You’d be better off installing Linux on another drive if you’re going to dual boot. Windows loves to mess with the EFI boot partition which ends up borking the Linux bootloader.
If your family does more than just browse the web, there’s definitely going to be a bit of a learning curve, it’s possible though. I converted my 73 year old father to Linux after he used Windows for 25 years.
If you install the Linux bootloader on a separate partition from the Windows bootloader, then it’s trivial to repair it, but that might be a bit advanced for a basic user.
Ah really? I could put it on the hard drive, but the whole point of the SSD was for it to take the OS… Will have to think on that.
They generally don’t do more than browse the web so I’m not anticipating any major issues. I used to game on it, but it’s so old now I’ve stopped using it for games.
Maybe I’ll put it on a usb for a while instead of dual booting.
I meant installing Linux itself on another drive, but having the EFI System Partition on another drive could work theoretically.
Go with Pop! Pop! Is a great OS and has pretty much everything working right out of the box. Go with Gnome so that people understand they need to do things slightly different rather than trying to use a Linux machine like a Windows machine. Plus Gnome is just awesome. Hit the windows key, type the first couple letters of the program you want to open, hit enter, done! The Pop shop has almost everything an average user would need, so you can install things with the click of a button without having to search the Internet, and updates are a hands off affair.
Edit: since you’re not a Linux user I’ll clarify Gnome. Gnome is a desktop environment, and Pop is the actual operating system. In Linux you can change how your computer interface looks and works by choosing different desktop environments(DE). A variation of Gnome is the default DE for Pop, and it works great. KDE would be the DE most similar to Windows, but it has enough differences that it can frustrate Windows users. Gnome is completely different, so they’ll take the time to figure something out rather than just getting frustrated that it’s different. Besides, the learning curve on Gnome is basically zero. Just use the Windows key and start typing. It’s literally that simple.
I’ll counter that when I tried gnome it was so far it was frustrating while KDE took some adjustment but it worked like a de was supposed to work in my brain. And gnome wasn’t as easily customizable as kde
Yeah, no recommendation will work for everyone. My advice was just based on observation of new Linux users and the challenges I see them complaining about. I’m glad you found something that works for you.
Oh absolutely, I just wanted to share because some people will see that and think “if gnome is easier and I hated it then I shouldn’t bother with KDE”. Nah if you don’t like gnome try KDE or cinnamon. Everyone is different, that’s why there are multiple major des.
They have been doing this for at least a year now. They have one that tries to trick you into thinking that it was already updated and you have to finish setting it up. It takes several clicks on tiny hidden buttons to escape it. There’s no option to tell it to fuck off forever. They’ll pester you again a couple weeks later.
dark design or fraud design should be fineable.
Dark patterns were outlawed years ago, but the FTC has to enforce it. My guess is that Microsoft either designed it in such a way that it barely meets the requirements, or they figured it won’t matter because even if they get caught, the fine will be less than their savings/profit.
They could convince me to update by making windows 11 not suck.
At least in the EU until now no such PopUps, but it’s hilarious, that I can’t update to W11 in a 3 years old Laptop, at least not without cheats, only because my Graphic Card, AMD Radeon with 2+1 GB isn’t in the MS list, not for other reasons.
I’m in the EU and yesterday I booted in Windows 10 and I got one :(
At least not in my, maybe I’ve gut Windows from all telemetries, notifications (except for updates) and other crap and services. If the Pop Ups persists, install the Optimizer (FOSS), which can help you to give it a kick in the ass.
Thanks!
I took the free upgrade. Then after a bit I updated my bios and it killed my license. Microsoft wouldn’t fix it and said I changed my hardware so there was nothing they could do. Still pissed off about that.
Pretty much the only thing I use my PC for is gaming so it really sucks that I can’t just dump them for Linux…
I don’t want some games. I don’t want to have something I’ve been hyped about be out of reach for God knows how long just because Linux support is crap as the market share is so low, but man do i hate Microsoft…
Because of proton it’s not perfect but it’s damn close these days. And that means that linux support is rapidly increasing with linux marketshare. And when all else fails, I keep a windows partition just in case
Beside we-know-which games that use a root-kit anti-cheat, which games you think doesn’t work on Linux or work terribly or straight out not work on Linux on first-day?
I don’t play those and I don’t own them on Steam. Out of 600+ games I own on Steam, everything literally run without me touch my terminal once.
Unless you don’t think proton is good, then you might be mistaken somewhere. It’s straight magic
Some Lego games.
To be honest I just see people commenting here and there that xyz game didn’t work for them and they have to jump through a bunch of hoops for what does work that I just write Linux off for now.
That and I tend to like to check out early access games (cough star citizen cough) so I just dont want to limit myself just to give Mi€ro$oft the finger.
Also, (see early access comment) I’m kind of impatient so even though I’m pretty capable, the last thing I want to do is have to be an IT guy for my PC every time something doesn’t work lol windows is pretty good in that respect.
Suggestion: dual boot. Use Linux unless some game you want to play doesn’t work (yet).
I love The Dark Mod, a great envolving game at the level of commercial ones, it’s 100% free with a great community and works fine in Windows, Linux and Mac. A game for Years with currently more than 170 community made missions, more every few month.
Someone should let Microsoft know that they only have 18 months left to put out an OS that isn’t a complete dumpster fire. Right now, I would take Vista over 11.
I’ll upgrade once Win11 is out of open beta. Almost once a week they patch in a bug that’s inconvincing users, I don’t have that issue with win10. I wish MS would spend that energy on bug fixing and QoL UI elements. Win11 has less taskbar options, you’d think they added them by now…
The cycle continues
If corporations would just end their love affair with exchange online and fucking outlook, maybe windows would go away
This might be a bit off topic but I hate how you can’t dismiss these kind of messages and be done with them, instead you have confirmation or remind me later. They just keep pestering you and I find that insulting. The same thing with Google play pass whenever I install something, that damn popup keeps coming back.
