• xep@discuss.online
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    What I think he’s trying to say is that Glyphosate affects the shikimate pathway, which is a biological pathway in plants. This doesn’t exist in human cells, but it does exist in our gut microbiota.

    We also know now that Glyphosate is a glycine analogue and can displace glycine anywhere in protein synthesis, with unknown effects. It’s also likely an endocrine disrupter.

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      You’re saying a lot here and I’m sure it’s valid and interesting but let’s make this easy: If it’s not food, it shouldn’t go in the food supply unless the benefits to consumers outweigh costs.

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        But you’re talking about US policy, so the actual metric is that it shouldn’t go in the food supply unless the benefits to corporations outweigh the costs.

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    As if denying millions of Americans access to proper healthcare wasn’t enough, they appointed an anti-science, anti-vaxx idiot as if to make sure even more harm would be inflicted on them.

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    RFK has never been about science.

    He was a paid antivax advocate, for money, now he’s a paid glyphosate advocate, again for money.

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    Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.

    It’s frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don’t Look Up captured that frustration really well.

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      Whether climate change is occurring, what damage it’s doing and what’s causing it are scientific questions. How to address it is a set of political questions: How do we get humanity to emit less greenhouse gases? How do we get countries on the same page? How do we make sure that the effects of these changes don’t increase global inequality?

      The scientific questions have been answered very well, and are continuing to be answered in more detail all the time.

      The response to the political questions has been an abject failure so far.

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      You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely and not just because of politicians.

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        Andrew Wakefield managed to fuck up people’s attitude towards vaccines quite well without politics.

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          Inserting things under people’s skin just freaks people out in general. There are so many reasons.

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      They also have to continually convince politicians and other politically minded people to give them money, and risk having it taken away if their results are politically inconvenient.

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    Ofc the digestive flora is plants. Man the level of stupidity. Just as dumb as the orange dumbass talking about asylum seekers being release from mental asylums… What a time to be alive.

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    Is this RFKJ’s broken clock moment?

    Or am I reading into this wrong? Cuz AFAIK glyphosate is in fact bad for the environment and the food chain including us.

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    doesn’t harm organic tissue

    Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.

    Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.

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    Your stomach microbiome is plants

    Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.

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    One with frontotemporal dementia that has rapidly shrinking brain, the other one with half a brain eaten by the worm… in what fucking timeline do we live… feels like Rick and Morty episode… fuck. me.

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    Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.

    But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don’t suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?

    And I’m not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.