• apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml
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    1. Get kicked from freedesktop for fostering a toxic community.
    2. Ditch wlroots for your own compositor.
    3. Shit on other compositors in your spare time.
    4. Tell people they should just be plugging into Hyprland instead of rolling their own compositor.

    Man if I was concerned about sinking the time to make a configuration for the compositor with a bus factor of 1 man-child, and a toxic community; I can’t imagine anybody investing the time to make a compositor is going to want to hitch themselves to that cart.

    The compositor is really solid and makes for a great user experience but I’ll be fucked if every word vaxry writes doesn’t make me want to move to sway or niri.

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    The reality is that, although there are quite a few standalone Wayland compositors, you don’t hear about most of them, because almost all of them suck in one way or another if you go beyond opening terminals.

    Oh, fuck off! I can barely use Blender because dragging a spinner control does something with the cursor that makes Hyprland shit its pants. It’s been fixed and broken several times. May or may not be related: Vaxry has expressed his disdain for Blender in issue notes. (edit) found it: https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland/issues/3270

    (edit2) I should also mention that Hyprland is the only compositor where this happens. KDE Plasma, Qtile-wayland, Sway, Wayfire are all fine.

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    Click baity title aside. This is actually pretty much pretty true. What the vast majority of people want when they’re writing their own composers seems to be specifically the custom window management aspects.

    And it is true that even with something like Wlroots or a Smithay, it is a lot of works right your own composer and have it be “competitive”. And he is right. There are a lot of composers out there that are just not usable for anything more than the basics. And there are tons more which are just toys that have been abandoned that aren’t really usable. That being said we saw a lot of that with window managers, But yes, writing a compositor is a lot more then writing a window manager.

    I personally don’t use hyperland, but I can see the point he’s trying to make, and I think it’s a rather good point. I think if we had more compositors that focused on having a scriptable window management, then that would be for the better.

    I don’t really see this as toxic either. I mean, if it’s toxic to call a composite or trash in one way or another, then I would argue that 90% of the Linux community is far more toxic than he is. It’s just a matter of truth. Wayland is a big complicated thing with a lot of protocols and some of it is poorly documented.

    And of course, this is him shilling his own composter. It’s his own composter, and this is the blog about him making his own composter. Of course he’s gonna put a post on it, shilling his own compositor.

    That being said, As I said earlier, I would like to see a more scriptable take for things like window management. I don’t think hyprland has to be unique in this aspect, but as it stands, it most definitely is.

    pardon my weird language, its hard to use STT.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    Btw, is there one for touchscreen notebooks/tablets yet?
    There was one, paper-something, but i think it’s abandoned now?