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      You don’t work where I work then.

      Family-owned business. Realizes they’re behind-the-ball on technology and practices. Hires college-educated & outside people to make suggestions.

      “Well none of that makes sense to us. Forget all that and do it our way.”

      “That way is wrong.”

      “Well it’s our business, we’ll do it how we want.”

      Then they get all <surprised pikachu> when the talented people get burnt out and quit after a few weeks. Eventually it’s “well these kids just don’t want to work hard like we do.”

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      From what I understand it’s fairly common in engineering, but less of a forget everything you learned and more of a that’s all gonna be pretty much useless in the context of the specific job you’re doing so just pay attention to the training

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        I can recall employers saying something along the lines of “don’t think you know everything about business because you just got a business degree” but that’s mostly about the attitude some new grads have.

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    Imo university most important task is to teach you the basics and how to accumulate and use the knowledge you need to do a job.

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      Yeah, some of the computer science theory I learned occasionally comes in handy when I’m reasoning about problems or when I’m picking apart some spec. My husband who attended a code school instead is a perfectly apt developer, but he struggles more. College also just gave me the time and resources to get a survey of knowledge outside of formal coursework. On the job, I tend to go more in-depth on topics closely related to the job.

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    We need to figure out college in the US. There’s way too much dead weight meant to justify tuition in most programs. I’m sorry but I don’t need to know how to write research papers to do half the fields taught in college. Dropping that dead weight would make college far more attainable for so many people.

    If we can’t stop businesses from requiring degrees, and we can’t, then we need a hard look at what’s in a degree.

    Also, the government needs to back off requiring degrees for so much stuff too. For example they want a degree to tell people nearing retirement age what their options are and to do the paperwork. I’m sorry but that’s not what college is about. Unless there’s a technical need that cannot be fulfilled with certifications or practical tests, (code a coffee machine for me, and build the stack), it should not require a degree.

    Going by job listings you’d think literally everyone other than construction, military, retail, food, and security, has a degree.

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    Me, reads comments: Man there’s a lot more of the ‘college ain’t nuthin’ but debt and a piece of paper’ people on Lemmy than I thought there were.

    Ya’ll are just trying to overcompensate for feeling inadequate about not going to college. If you don’t go, don’t go. It’s not for everyone. But don’t shit on and downplay the people who have the talent and ability to do so.

    “It just teaches you do be a useful tool of the machine!” yeah that’s exactly what someone who didn’t go or shouldn’t have went to college would think.

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      Not going to college doesn’t mean a lack of talent or ability.

      In fact, going to college doesn’t mean you have either of those either.

      Here, you want one of my lollipops?

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        Not going to college doesn’t mean a lack of talent or ability.

        I didn’t say that. Thanks for proving my point. 😊

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          But don’t shit on and downplay the people who have the talent and ability to do so.

          I didn’t say that

          Am i missing something?

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            Yes. You know that “all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs” rule? It’s that.

            Not all talented people go to college. But odds are the people who go to college are talented.

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              If u ever went to college u would know it applies a lot over there 😂

              Theres talented people everywhere, and i would say theres even more in highschool than college. The diference? Money.

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            I didn’t imply it. You inferred it. Incorrectly, at that.

            People that are perfectly capable of going to college choose not to. Doesn’t make them inferior. And I don’t think they are, by any stretch.

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              You are just wrong in every reply. I don’t even care to write a college level explanation of it to you.

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                  I know better. You’re a jackass talking shit to people but obviously know nothing worth talking to. Get a life, loser.