cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33219979
by Caitlin Johnstone Jul 15, 2025
The New York Times has published an op-ed by a genocide scholar who says that he resisted acknowledging the truth of what Israel is doing in Gaza for as long as he could, but can no longer deny the obvious.
It’s an admission that may as well have come from The New York Times itself.
In an article titled “I’m a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.”, a Brown University professor of Holocaust and genocide studies named Omer Bartov argues that “Israel is literally trying to wipe out Palestinian existence in Gaza,” and denounces his fellow Holocaust scholars for failing to acknowledge reality.
The most important thing is to never be against the atrocities too soon. One day, everyone will have been against this genocide.
Its only fair to critizice it after goals have been achieved.
Spain and some other EU countries since time called it what it is and Netanyahu an criminal. Even dicovering that Hamas is supported and funded by Israel to justify this genocide. This makes Netanyahu even more vomitive than it is already and all orange guys which support him
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-funded-hamas-claims-eu-top-diplomat-josep-borrell/
Remind me what did Josep Borrell do when he had power? This is the “europe is a garden” guy btw.
Not to say that he is wrong here, but this is just lip service from a career politician serving the very same people that pushed the genocide.
I just don’t like Spain getting good rep because of empty rhetoric, while in reality they materially support Israel.
It’s not the only one who said it, it is known as public domain since years.
I know, israel did this to undermine the PLO, but i ask you what did Borrell do when he held one of the top EU positions? Nothing. These ghouls don’t deserve any good rep for minimal lip service.
Hamas is supported and funded by Israel to justify this genocide.
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Not now but they did fund Hamas some time ago to undermine the PLO*, it’s a well known fact. Not unlike what is happening with Syria, helping headchoppers take power to justify seizing more Syrian territory with the excuse of “helping minorities" which they later will kill.
that’s not what the other guy said, he didn’t say “oh back in the day israel indirectly or directly used hamas to undermine other groups” he said “Hamas is supported and funded”
As advanced as we have become, we still fail at objectively “scoring” atrocities quickly enough to stop unreasonable loss of life.
I don’t think that’s where we’re failing.
It became very obvious, a couple of weeks into Israel’s retaliation, that this wasn’t ever about the Hamas attacks but about wiping out every single Palestinian from Gaza.
But the EU is still searching for a spine, the US condones it, and the rest of the world doesn’t really care enough.
And here we are, with dozens and dozens of innocent people being massacred every single day. It makes me sick to my stomach…
EU isn’t “searching for a spine” they condone it as well.
Not exactly.
The ruling class gets to decide the score. They didn’t fail to recognize the atrocity quickly enough, they supported it.
This manner of thinking is painfully naive if not downright disingenous. They knew it was a genocide, they have known it’s a genocide since mid 20th century, but chose to cover it up because of their material interests.
Gotta give some treats to their readers from time to time.
